Trying to Identify this knife

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sseamen
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Trying to Identify this knife

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This is a Hen and Rooster knife from Frost. The box it came in is marked HR-5043-PS
HR 5042 Barcode.jpg
but the blade is marked HR-5042-PS
HR 5042 Blade 2.jpg
The only apparent difference is that the 5042 blade is about .5 inch longer and is more rounded on the end than the 5043. Both knives are listed on the frost cutlery site as 'Folder' for their configuration and both show polished stag for the handle material. I would like to know the name for this blade shape, if any one knows, and I would also like to know the handle material.
HR 5042 Handle.jpg
I've never seen pink and green bubbles in polished stag.
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HR 5042 Box & Knife.jpg
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First, welcome!
The blade shape is called a sheepsfoot, because that's what it looks like.
As for any other info on the knife, I have to pass and defer to folks who are more knowledgeable than I!
Take care and God bless,

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Thanks for the welcome Steve! I had at first thought Sheepsfoot for the shape, but most examples I saw of that blade seem to have an even width from the handle up to where they slope down to the point. This one is wider at the tip than at the handle end. I didn't know if this made a difference or not.
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Welcome!
Great to see you decided to jump on board!
The blade looks a bit like a cotton sampler, my dad has a Fight' N Rooster gunstock handle pattern with a small pen and large blade that looks like yours. Yours might be a cotton sampler jack. I don't know much other than that. There are a bunch of really experienced collectors on here that will help you much better than my two bits.
Also never seen a hen and rooster with that handle coloreration, I really like it!
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The box and the knife are one digit off. The box is for a grafting/budding knife. The blade on yours is a sheepsfoot as already stated. The PS for both numbers is for polished stag. Nice looking knife! ::tu::
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As previously stated the OP knife blade is a sheep foot.

Below are pics of cotton sampler blades I swiped from other threads.

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The OP is correct the shape is not the usual sheepsfoot profile. It looks more like a sheepsfoot crossed with a 'half hawk'(bill). And the name 'sheepsfoot' is because this blade was designed to shave off parts of a sheep's hooves. Don't know why you have to do this so i will ask the next shepherd that i meet.
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kj, I was just figuring it was the company's version/variation of the sheepsfoot.
Take a look at how different spay blades can look between all the different companies.
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kootenay joe wrote: Don't know why you have to do this so i will ask the next shepherd that i meet.
kj
Same principle as trimming your nails. Animals having hooves sometimes need them trimmed. If they frequently walk on rocks, pavement of other abrasives the hooves get naturally worn down so will not need trimmed as frequently as those of animals that spend their lives in a soft pasture. Sometimes they have to be trimmed, if not they can become lame from walking on excess hoof, the hoof can collect mud, manure, etc which can cause sores, hoof rot, and illness.

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I trimmed A LOT of sheep hooves when I was back on the farm. You start with a pair of clippers as shown in Ken's pic, then if you want to smooth things out, you use a knife.

However, like almost all other situations in knifedom, just about any sharp blade shape will do the job just fine... :wink:
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Thank you Shepherds ! :D
TFL, i will humbly disagree here: "just about any sharp blade shape will do the job just fine."
If a clip blade is used and animal jerks his leg he could get a puncture wound. Likely this is the reason for the spine to drop to blade edge on the sheepsfoot.
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All of the knives with blade like that, which I have seen over the years, are made for the cordage, nautical and felting industries. I have generally seen them described as "rope" knives, not sheepfoot knives. As was pointed out, the blade gets wider as it leaves the tang, not so with sheepfoot blades. I think that there is overlap, however, both in function and nomenclature.
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