camillus #72

[DM11]

Thanks for the pics Grant. The master blade on this knife appears to be slightly hollow ground. I think Schrade called it Kon Kav ground. I might be looking at it wrong.

[jerryd6818]

With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

[DM11]

With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

[KnifeSlinger#81]

The blades look similar to schrade, but the bone definitely does not. I think it's an ulster.

You can usually spot the difference between a schrade/ulster and a camillus because the blades on the schrade/ulster are larger, particularly the coping blade. As Grant said you can also tell because of the match strike pull of a camillus, which schrade did not do on the 863 and it's variants.

[gsmith7158]

With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

David all this detective work is what I enjoy about these 72 clones.

[Shearer]

Camillus made a wood handle 72 the called a Camillus 5 this knife did not have a matchstick pull.
The only Ulster 63 I have are Delrin handle and a Kon Kav grind on one side.
I have some Craftsman 9492 ( 72 clones ) made by Imperial.
It looks like that Imperial made knives for Craftsman under the names of Ulster, Schrade and Imperial.

How to know the difference between a Imperial Schrade knife and a Camillus.Look at the top bolster(main blade) the Camillis is a fraction wide and the Schrade is more rounded.Check your knives than you can tell me If I am right or wrong.
gsmith7158 some more detective work

Grant

[gsmith7158]

Camillus made a wood handle 72 the called a Camillus 5 this knife did not have a matchstick pull.
The only Ulster 63 I have are Delrin handle and a Kon Kav grind on one side.
I have some Craftsman 9492 ( 72 clones ) made by Imperial.
It looks like that Imperial made knives for Craftsman under the names of Ulster, Schrade and Imperial.

How to know the difference between a Imperial Schrade knife and a Camillus.Look at the top bolster(main blade) the Camillis is a fraction wide and the Schrade is more rounded.Check your knives than you can tell me If I am right or wrong.
gsmith7158 some more detective work

Grant

Grant I'm away from my knives this week. I'll be itching to get at them when I get home!

[DM11]

With the knife in hand, can you see any sign of bolster pins?

Yes sir Jerry it has bolster pins.

David all this detective work is what I enjoy about these 72 clones.

Yes, it sure is interesting and fun. I'll try to get better pics up tomorrow.

[jerryd6818]

Compare it to this Hammer Brand (note the shield & the saber ground main) Schrade and Ulster shields are football shaped with ends that are much more pointed. The only Imperials I have for comparison have a Scout shield.
Edit: Yes, I do see the shields are not exactly alike.

Hammer Brand

[Meridian_Mike]

WOW.... I am AMAZED at how many different 72's there are out there.

Looks like you could spend all your time chasing them.
(I know every time I look into a pile of knives, that is the shape I look for now)

I got this 1047 yesterday.... somebody had re-attached the shield wrong and with some sort of thick rubbery substance. First thing I did when I got it in my hands was to turn the shield correctly and attach it with some good epoxy.

[gsmith7158]

Compare it to this Hammer Brand (note the shield & the saber ground main) Schrade and Ulster shields are football shaped with ends that are much more pointed. The only Imperials I have for comparison have a Scout shield.
Edit: Yes, I do see the shields are not exactly alike.

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Hammer Brand 72 Clone - Open.JPG

Jerryd the shield on the Imperial Hammer brand looks like it would fit in David's OP knife but were there ever any with bone handles?

[jerryd6818]

but were there ever any with bone handles?

I don't know the answer to that Greg.

[DM11]

Here are a couple more pics of the knife.

[Shearer]

Here are a couple more pics of the knife.

Looks the same as mine.

Gsmith
Here a picture of Imperial shields next to Hammer shields.
The later Imperial shields are smaller than the earlier ones.

Grant

[gsmith7158]

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury. We have a surprise witness that has just entered the courtroom. Apparently I have a knife just like David's.
Here it is compared to a Schrade made Olsen and the Imperial Hammer Brand. Just about a dead ringer with the Imperial except for bone handles

[doglegg]

Floyd, for your hunting enjoyment, there are at least three variations of the R-14. Look for them. Collect all three.

Jerry this one is your fault. NOS Remington R 14 with a wood handle. I know, just one more to go. Actually kinda nice to find it. Thanks.

[carrmillus]

........like the wood on that one!!!!............ .................

[doglegg]

Thanks Carrmillus.

[carrmillus]

Thanks Carrmillus.

..........ever eat any smoked beef brisket at RAILHEAD in ft. worth????............... .................

[doglegg]

I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.

[carrmillus]

I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.

...........that stuff will make a bulldog break his chain!!!!!!............ ..................

[doglegg]

I have not but I will put it on the list. Thanks for the recommendation.
...........that stuff will make a bulldog break his chain!!!!!!............ ..................

[jerryd6818]

My fault? Jeez!

[Meridian_Mike]

Well, I found this poor and very sick "WHITE TAIL CUTLERY" 72 pattern knife at the antique store this past weekend. Nothing at all on the blade tangs....There is a little blade etch left. MAN.... how does anyone ruin a set of blades like this?

Anyway, Jerry, I am sure you have a good example of this one... don't you?

Mike

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

how does anyone ruin a set of blades like this?

I know the answer to that one - with liberal use of one of these: