camillus #72

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:51 pm

Haha. Tommy, if I'm at home and awake that's the only excuse i need to look through mine.

kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Thu Mar 01, 2018 3:47 pm

Quoting Greg: "Those are all first generation bone handled 72's likely made in 1946. You can tell because the pen blade and the master are paired on one side and the coping blade is the single."
Somewhere in this thread i posted my bone handled Craftsman 9529 which is a Camillus #72 pattern knife. It has a long pen blade paired with the master clip blade and coping on it's own at opposite end. Master clip has a full flat grind both sides & swage starting at proximal end of nail nick, both sides.
So is this a 1946 knife ? Based on what i know of the Craftsman knives 1946 is in the correct time range.
1946 was also the year i came out so the '46 72'ers are extra special to me !
kj

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:03 am

kootenay joe wrote:Quoting Greg: "Those are all first generation bone handled 72's likely made in 1946. You can tell because the pen blade and the master are paired on one side and the coping blade is the single."
Somewhere in this thread i posted my bone handled Craftsman 9529 which is a Camillus #72 pattern knife. It has a long pen blade paired with the master clip blade and coping on it's own at opposite end. Master clip has a full flat grind both sides & swage starting at proximal end of nail nick, both sides.
So is this a 1946 knife ? Based on what i know of the Craftsman knives 1946 is in the correct time range.
1946 was also the year i came out so the '46 72'ers are extra special to me !
kj

Roland are you talking about one of these two that I bought from you? The first one a true whittler is etched on the blade Craftsman 9529 and the second has no pattern number on it. Both have bone handles.

kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 3:02 am

Greg, the knife i am asking about is set up as a 72, but with the pen blade with the clip. It is a bit odd that Craftsman used the same pattern # for both a true whittler and a 72 style knife.
I will try to take pictures in the morning.
kj

kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 5:32 pm

Here is the Sears Craftsman 9529 with pen blade next to flat ground master clip blade.
And when looking in the back of an old bookcase i found 2 more 72's both NIB (but original box ?), an Ole Smoky and a yellow Delrin. Do these have stainless blades ?
kj

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:16 pm

Roland, that certainly looks like the same thing as the 1946 first gens If I am not mistaken I think Jerryd believes that the whittler like you sold me was the predecessor of the 72 in the Camillus line so that could be the reason that Craftsman has the same pattern on them. I don't know for sure about the steel used for Ole Smokey and the yellow handled one but my guess would be carbon steel since they are not marked Stainless.

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:54 pm

I got this one in today. It's a Camillus made Remington R14 to complement the rest of my Camillus 72 collection. It looks as though the tang marking was etched and now is barely visible.

Shearer · Post by **Shearer** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:36 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:I got this one in today. It's a Camillus made Remington R14 to complement the rest of my Camillus 72 collection. It looks as though the tang marking was etched and now is barely visible.

Here one with a bit better tang stamp.

Grant

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:41 pm

Grant were all of those etched like that? They must have been made near the end.

Shearer · Post by **Shearer** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 8:53 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Grant were all of those etched like that? They must have been made near the end.

I think they were made towards the end.The last Camillus tang stamp was etched.
If you look at the finish.(pins through bolster )the earlier 72 had a better finish.

Grant

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sat Mar 17, 2018 10:51 pm

Don't know for sure of course but that's never stopped me from guessing. Maybe got an order for a run of Remingtons toward the end and scrounged up enough main blades to fill the order. Had a dukes mixture of tang stamps on them so they ground off the stamp and etched on Remington. Just maybe the blade for Greg's knife already had Remington stamped on it and they noticed that just before they got it ground off. Hey, it's not a half bad story.

They got a little heavy handed with mine.

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:35 pm

This old gal showed up in the box today. I just couldn't turn her away!

Shearer · Post by **Shearer** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:20 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:This old gal showed up in the box today. I just couldn't turn her away!

Another nice bone handle.
Did you buy this one.It was a little bit high price for me .
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Poc ... 1438.l2649

Grant

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:41 pm

Shearer wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:This old gal showed up in the box today. I just couldn't turn her away!
Another nice bone handle.
Did you buy this one.It was a little bit high price for me .
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Poc ... 1438.l2649

Grant

I did get That one Grant. I was intrigued by the full milled liners. Not partial milling like the Deluxe models Camillus made. What do you make of that? Something special for Sears maybe? It hasn't arrived yet but I will certainly post it when it does.

Shearer · Post by **Shearer** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:07 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:
Shearer wrote:
gsmith7158 wrote:This old gal showed up in the box today. I just couldn't turn her away!
Another nice bone handle.
Did you buy this one.It was a little bit high price for me .
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Vintage-Poc ... 1438.l2649

Grant
I did get That one Grant. I was intrigued by the full milled liners. Not partial milling like the Deluxe models Camillus made. What do you make of that? Something special for Sears maybe? It hasn't arrived yet but I will certainly post it when it does.

To me it look like Camillus made a few knives for different hardware stores.When these knives where made I am not sure.
The first first generation Camillus was made around 1946.Were the cardon USA knives made before than your guess is as good as mine.I have a True Value one with milled linesCan't show a picture as knife is in storage.
Jerry has a carbon USA , he might have more information.

Grant

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:19 pm

Grant I have this 4 line Sword Brand that I assume was made 1941-46. It's got the funky composition stag but it does have milled liners. Perhaps that's just the way they made them then.

kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 3:57 pm

Greg, the 72 you won on ebay Australia is from a USA seller. How does that work ? Seller chooses to list on Aussie ebay ?
and you happen to check Aussie ebay ??
kj
Edit: i just realized poster is in Australia so seller lists in ebay in every country ?

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 4:15 pm

Roland I suppose as long as you indicate that you will ship international that your listing is posted everywhere. Grant copied the listing from his Aussie computer.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:17 pm

gsmith7158 wrote:Grant I have this 4 line Sword Brand that I assume was made 1941-46. It's got the funky composition stag but it does have milled liners. Perhaps that's just the way they made them then.

...greg, I've got 2 with the worked liners, one is an early "72", the other one is an older split-back(both have smooth caramel bone handles with large 4-pointed oval shields)..........

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gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:36 pm

Tommy perhaps that means that the 72's with milled liners were kind of like transition knives with Camillus using up the last of the milled liners.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 7:05 pm

.....wish I knew, greg????....your answer makes sense to me!!......

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Shearer · Post by **Shearer** » Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:44 pm

kootenay joe wrote:Greg, the 72 you won on ebay Australia is from a USA seller. How does that work ? Seller chooses to list on Aussie ebay ?
and you happen to check Aussie ebay ??
kj
Edit: i just realized poster is in Australia so seller lists in ebay in every country ?

kj. You can use your eBay sign in detail to sign into any ebay site.
It than all comes down to how a seller lists a item.
For example if I go to the USA ebay site without logging in I will see all the listings,when I login some of the listings disappear.The rest of the listings state if the do or don't post to Australia.
Grant

Vit_213 · Post by **Vit_213** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:21 pm

Nothing special, just a BSA Whittler, which I received recently.

kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:40 pm

Are the handles yellow Delrin ? or white ?
I have not seen a BSA 72 with the same handles, only with jigged Delrin to resemble bone.
kj

Vit_213 · Post by **Vit_213** » Thu Apr 05, 2018 4:52 pm

This is Ivory Delrin. In 1980, BSA decided that all knives should be of this color, but after 1982 they returned back.

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