Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[ken98k]

Stopped by the range yesterday to function fire the 10mm.

It was -12* so my shooting period was short and sweet. The pistol functioned flawlessly except for a new magazine that I picked up failed to lock the slide open after the last round. Recoil seemed to be a little sharper than a standard 45acp but was certainly manageable. Next time I'll take a standard 45 along for comparison.

I was firing at a tin can at about 25' and hit it 5 out 7 shots, so I'm thinking it will be a good shooter when I put up a paper target at 25 yards.

[zp4ja]

Congratulations on that pickup Ken. As you have probably read here, I am a big 10mm fan. Beautiful gun.

Jerry

[treefarmer]

Need some advice from some of you gun traders, please.
I have been offered the choice of one of two rifles in a trade for an old grain wagon (gravity flow box on Electric Wheel gear). Wagon gear is okay, the gravity flow body is full of holes from being in the weather, tires are not good, hasn't been moved in several years. I have owned this wagon for at least 40 years.
I have been offered either a like new Marlin XL7 30/06 or a well preserved Remington 74 30/06, both have cheap scopes. The pot was sweetened when he also added a new in the box, Leopold VX1 3X9X40 'scope. Now I don't really need another deer rifle and I don't need the old wagon anymore, the guy wants to haul deer feed to several leases with it so it would serve him well after he plugs the holes in the body. My predicament is which rifle would be the best to take on trade? Which rifle would most likely good be the best trading material? I plan on probably keeping the Leopold scope.
Any thoughts or opinions would be appreciated.
Treefarmer

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

I don't really know either gun - but I think those are two very different guns with two very different target markets. If I was a gun collector, I would want the Remington. If I was a deer hunter choosing which gun to take into the field, I would want the Marlin. What kind of stock is on the Marlin, wood, plastic or laminate? In your region of the country, what do people think of semi auto deer rifles? Are they avoided or cool?

[treefarmer]

The Marlin has a synthetic stock, lots of folks shoot semi-auto deer rifles, lots of us like bolts actions. I haven't owned a semi auto Remington in over 45 years. Back then they were model 742s, 740's were even earlier, this Remington is a model 74. The best part of the deal will be the new Leopold scope, which I'll probably keep. The rifle will be trading material. Decisions, decisions, .
Treefarmer

[big monk]

Phillip, my choice would be the 7400 Remington -- had one and it was a good shooter,plus it didn't ""JAM"" like the 742's that I had before -- plastic /laminate stock on the Marlin is a turn-off for me -- and like you said, you'll get a nice scope out of the deal**

[treefarmer]

Monk, I finally found out that the model 74 is a plain Jane 7400. Hard wood stock not walnut and metal finish supposedly not as slick as the 7400 I noticed it did not have any checkering on the stock and the wood had no grain showing, still very nice condition. Looks like the new Remington auto loader is a model 750, I just haven't kept up with them like I used to do. I may be leanin' the other way.
Treefarmer

[big monk]

Phillip -- you can compare what's available & prices asked for each rifle* on some of the gun sights ( Armslist,GunBroker,ect.) -- might help ya' with the decision ? __ I did some reading and seems the Model 74 is a ""JAM-A-MATIC"" like the 742 Woodmaster -- take the Marlin bolt rifle & be safe JMHO***

[treefarmer]

Thanks, Monk. I believe I'll go that route.
Treefarmer

[rangerbluedog]

Good choice

[treefarmer]

Thanks for the comments and advice. I told the feller I would trade for the Marlin and the Leupold , new in the box. Oh yeah, the Marlin has some kind of a Bushnell scope mounted on it, I didn't pay much attention to it when I handled the rifle. I aired up the tires on the wagon and pulled it out into the lane, now I'm like a kid waitin' for Christmas.
Treefarmer

[Paladin]

Does anyone here deer hunt with a .223?

Jerry,
When I moved to Central Texas I began hunting with a 223. My first was a Remington 788, bolt action. Extremely accurate. Next came a Ruger #1, also in 223 and also very accurate. It requires good shot placement but will get the job done. It is a pleasure to shoot and I use military ammo filed down to where the lead core just barely shows. It costs next to nothing to shoot it.

Ray

[Paladin]

Does anyone here deer hunt with a .223?

Jerry, most of my buddies in Texas hunt hogs with an AR in .223.

Unk,
Check your PMs.

Ray

[ken98k]

Digging around in the safe this morning and rediscovered a couple I'd forgotten about.

[zzyzzogeton]

All these new-fangled shooting irons.

My latest BP pistol - a Pieta-made replica of the Colt Paterson Revolver, the first commercial revolver. Accompanying it in the first pic is my around-the-farm user Becker BK9. The other pic has my early 1950s Kabar Rigging knife, one of my EDCs.

I've carried the rigger nearly every day since I got it for $6 at a San Diego pawn shop way back in 1982. I've carried the rigger nearly every day since I got it for $6 at a San Diego pawn shop way back in 1982. I have very seldom used the blade for cutting. That task goes to my other EDCs. The rigger is carried specifically for the spike. Many people have never seen one and when I use it to loosen knots, they are amazed by it. At some point, I'm gonna need to have the scales replaced as they are cracking at the rivets due to shrinkage over the years.

This Paterson will be part of my Texian Navy Officer uniform I'm getting together for presentations on the history of Texas Navy.

Some history of the Paterson. One of the myths about the Paterson is that it was first used in Texas by the Texas Rangers.

The first ones bought by the Republic of Texas were destined for the Texian Navy, who bought 180 of them in 1839, along with a like number of Colt's revolving carbines and shotguns. When the Texian Navy was disbanded in 1843 by Sam Houston, the Rangers absconded with the surplus weapons, packing a pair of Patersons each.

The US Army didn't adopt the Paterson, claiming it was fragile and prone to malfunctions.

After General Zachary Taylor fought in Texas during the Mexican-American War, he sent Captain Samuel Walker, of the Texas Rangers (but serving with the US Mounted Rifles) back east to work with Colt to implement improvements in the revolvers, leading to the development of the Walker Colt, widely used in the US Army for decades.

The difference between the 1836 - 1838 and the 1839 - 1848 Patersons was that the first batch had to be disassembled to reload. When they were rejected by the US Army, that was one of the objections.

What impressed General Taylor was the Texan tactic of carrying spare LOADED AND CAPPED cylinders for rapid reload during battle. Not exactly a practice that would pass OSHA today.





Edit to add - fixed the dates

[Yehuda]

Picked this up. Les Baer Custom 1911 .45.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

The difference between the 1936 - 1938 and the 1939 - 1948 Patersons was that the first batch had to be disassembled to reload. When they were rejected by the US Army, that was one of the objections.

I suspect you meant "1836 - 1838 and the 1839 - 1848 Patersons".

[zzyzzogeton]

Fixed 'em.

[Yehuda]

Springfield Armory 1911 EMP, my new cc.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Nice.

I assume the weapon is empty, since it's cocked and you're sitting in your automobile.

Charlie Noyes

[doglegg]

Springfield Armory 1911 EMP, my new cc.
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Cocked and locked, ready for action. Nice pistol.

[RobesonsRme.com]

Personally, I'd rather have to execute that one-half second extra step to facilitate defensive fire than to have one less thing to have to occur leading to an accidental discharge.

I suspect that situations that might lead to accidental discharge occur much, much, much more frequently than a valid reason for defensive fire.

Or is there something about this particular weapon that I do not know?

Not criticizing. Just not the way I choose to carry.

I post the deaths of Army Special Forces Soldiers in South East Asia every week that occurred during that week of every year of The Viet Nam War. You'd be amazed at how many trained, professional soldiers lost their lives to accidental discharges of someone's weapon. Hell of a useless way to die.

Charlie Noyes

[zp4ja]

Personally, I'd rather have to execute that one-half second extra step to facilitate defensive fire than to have one less thing to have to occur leading to an accidental discharge.

I suspect that situations that might lead to accidental discharge occur much, much, much more frequently than a valid reason for defensive fire.

Or is there something about this particular weapon that I do not know?

Not criticizing. Just not the way I choose to carry.

I post the deaths of Army Special Forces Soldiers in South East Asia every week that occurred during that week of every year of The Viet Nam War. You'd be amazed at how many trained, professional soldiers lost their lives to accidental discharges of someone's weapon. Hell of a useless way to die.

Charlie Noyes

As Charlie alluded to, to each his own. That said, my personal preference is in line with him on this.

Not a fan of SAO personally but I do own one. SIG P938 which is basically a 3 inch 1911. I carry it chambered/ hammer down/ safety off. I carry as a backup only so cocking the hammer is the least of my concern if I have to resort to my backup, I likely have bigger issues.

I carry that as a backup to my primary EDC which 90% of the time is a full size 5 inch SIG 200 in 10mm. I have a round chambered on the 10mm but it is de-cocked using the de-cocking lever. It is a DA/ SA firearm which I prefer with no external safety. The best safety is that brain pan between your shoulders. DA/ SA which I own about 5 or 6 SIGs allow me flexibility for first round DA or SA with added safety in my opinion.

Just how I chose to do it. Not critical of others choices but this works for me.

Jerry

[Just Plain Dave]

My aunt gave us this last time we visited her. It has been mistreated but is solid.
Colt Cobra 38spl.

[TwoFlowersLuggage]

I'm no expert, but I thought a 1911 is difficult to carry hammer down because there is no decocking lever? So, you have manually lower the hammer, which can be dangerous, no? Sorry if these are silly questions, I don't own a 1911 pattern pistol.

Of course, the rage these days is striker-fired pistols, not SA/DA. So, you get a consistent trigger pull without the issues of a SA-only. But, then you have to be OK with the feel of a striker-fired trigger pull.