Outdoorsman Thread

[bighomer]

Nice buck farmer congrats, Flossie is a fine looking dog.

[treefarmer]

Lookin' at last weeks visitors in the deep woods. Would love to make an appointment with this one.
Tom, "bestgear", wants his tail for fly tying. Maybe our paths will cross.
Treefarmer

[bestgear]

you know I do Phillip - make it so!

[bighomer]

This ain't much of a photo but best l could do with camera phone about eleven last nite. There was 4 of them eating my bird corn.

[TripleF]

Those deer or coyotes Joe?

Saw a couple Woodstorks yesterday.....

[bighomer]

Those deer or coyotes Joe?

Saw a couple Woodstorks yesterday.....

Hard to tell from them pictures but they be deers our coyote don't care much for corn, but they do like cats and little dogs.

[treefarmer]

Got some pretty interesting pictures this last week. The 8 point I killed on the 16th was caught on the deep woods camera the day before he met the .243. The there were 2 different buck fights on the camera that covers the automatic feeder. 2 spikes go at it and then 2 larger bucks tie up around the feeder. Not as exciting as the videos of bucks fighting on the hunting channel, but hey, they were almost in our back yard. The woods are full of scrapes and the rut is going strong in this part of the Florida Panhandle.
Hope you enjoy the pictures. Click on the pictures to enlarge.
Treefarmer

[Quick Steel]

What a handsome buck Treefarmer. Congrats on your successful hunt.

[TripleF]

Awesome Philip!!!

[Eustace]

I see green trees. it is obviously warm to you. And here is minus 10...
I'm going to have a drink for a warm up. Cheers!

[treefarmer]

Thanks for the comments. I enjoy the cameras as much as the actual hunt, never know what will show up. The camera where the bucks are sparring runs year-round.
Eustace, we usually have some green here in the Florida Panhandle. By the way there is a town north of Orlando by the name of Eustis. Always think of it when I see your posts. I wonder if Eustace and Eustis are pronounced the same?
Spent the morning processing the 2 venison hams from the deer in the 1st picture.
Treefarmer

[Old Hunter]

Just catching up on the Outdoorsman thread - nice buck Philip, congratulations! Nice woodpile Scott - you sure work hard when you are relaxing bud! Mike, enjoy seeing your wilderness snow shots. OH

[Brumbydownunder]

You need to watch your step down here in Australia ....

21 of the top 25 most venomous snakes in the world live here

Derek

[treefarmer]

Selling snake boots ought to be a good business venture for some folks "down under"! Snake boots are worn by several groups of sportsmen and professionals in our country and to think we only have one snake to make the list. Reading the list, I'm surprised the Coral Snake and the Cottonmouth Moccasin are not listed. I guess snake bite is a big issue in the "out back's" out doors.
Treefarmer

[carrmillus]

....COTTONMOUTH!!!.....the name still gives me chills!!....I fished all my life up until a couple of years ago, and I have seen some here that should have been in the ZOO!!!........... ..............

[Dinadan]

....COTTONMOUTH!!!.....the name still gives me chills!!....I fished all my life up until a couple of years ago, and I have seen some here that should have been in the ZOO!!!........... ..............

But the ones that you see are not dangerous. Working on a land survey crew I have seen a lot of cottonmouths. When I was young I would kill them, but as I got older I just left them alone. The only one that scared me was one that was about two feet long. I thought I had identified him as a nonvenomous snake. I am quite fond of snakes so I grabbed this fellow by the middle and lifted him up to eye level to get a good look. Once he was exactly even with my face he lifted his head up and opened his mouth and displayed a beautiful pair of fangs .. . each fang had a tiny drop of venom hanging on the end ... that is the way I remember it, anyway. I dropped that snake and it took an unbelievable length of time for it to fall out of reach of my hand.

I note that the Eastern Diamondback did make the list. I have not seen a lot of them even after spending a lot of time working in the woods. Here is a photo of a very fine small specimen that I came across while running a section line a few years back. After posing for a few photos he went down a gopher tortoise hole.

[carrmillus]

......my oldest son lived in s. miss. for a while, close to picayune. a road crew killed an eastern diamondback while cleaning the roadside ditch in front of his trailer....it was 93" long and weighed nearly 10 lbs.!!!......... .............

[Paladin]

......my oldest son lived in s. miss. for a while, close to picayune. a road crew killed an eastern diamondback while cleaning the roadside ditch in front of his trailer....it was 93" long and weighed nearly 10 lbs.!!!......... .............

Wow, even an old Texan can't beat that. And I'm bettin that he weighed closer to 100 lbs than to 10 lbs. Typo I suspect.

Ray

[carrmillus]

.....you're right ray, I can't type, either!!!.............. .....................

[carrmillus]

......my oldest son lived in s. miss. for a while, close to picayune. a road crew killed an eastern diamondback while cleaning the roadside ditch in front of his trailer....it was 93" long and weighed nearly 10 lbs.!!!......... .............

Wow, even an old Texan can't beat that. And I'm bettin that he weighed closer to 100 lbs than to 10 lbs. Typo I suspect.

Ray

..ray, I remember something in the Jackson paper several years ago about an eastern diamondback that was over 14 feet long that was killed in the fla. panhandle. it was in the bed of a pickup being held up by 4 men!!!..... ...............

[Mumbleypeg]

Interesting list of snakes Derek. Obviously you Aussies have more than a fair share of the poisonous type. As far as I know we have only 4 poisonous snakes native to the U.S.A.

I recall reading that of poisonous snakes here in the U.S. the Coral Snake has the most poisonous venom per ounce, and the Southern Copperhead is also more poisonous than the Rattlesnake. But I don't see the Coral Snake or the (American) copperhead on the list. I'm curious if that list is most poisonous venom, or most poisonous per average bite?

Ken

[Brumbydownunder]

Interesting list of snakes Derek. Obviously you Aussies have more than a fair share of the poisonous type. As far as I know we have only 4 poisonous snakes native to the U.S.A.

I'm curious if that list is most poisonous venom, or most poisonous per average bite?

Ken

Ken, I'm not sure of the exact criteria ... I will endeavor to find out. I do know I carry a snake bandage with me at all times in my vehicle (I live and work in the bush) we have 3 of the top 10 in the area where I live.
Chap was bitten on the finger by an Eastern Brown north of here recently... an hour later he was dead ... it was never made clear what first aid steps were taken but he did make it to hospital and was alive when he got there. Rule of thumb with a Brown Snake bite is you have 20 mins to get to hospital.

For my part if I was bitten by a Brown snake I'd probably drop dead of fright any way.

I'll get back to you
Derek

[Dinadan]

Interesting list of snakes Derek. Obviously you Aussies have more than a fair share of the poisonous type. As far as I know we have only 4 poisonous snakes native to the U.S.A.

I recall reading that of poisonous snakes here in the U.S. the Coral Snake has the most poisonous venom per ounce, and the Southern Copperhead is also more poisonous than the Rattlesnake. But I don't see the Coral Snake or the (American) copperhead on the list. I'm curious if that list is most poisonous venom, or most poisonous per average bite?

Ken

Ken - I think that a higher percentage of folks who are bitten by a Coral Snake die than any other North American snake. Its venom is a lot more potent than the pit vipers, Rattlesnakes, Copperheads, Cottonmouths, and attacks the body in a different way. However, Coral snakes do not have long fangs to inject the venom the way that the pit vipers do. Plus they are small snakes with small mouths. Basically, if you are not messing with the snake with bare hands or feet then it cannot or will not bite you. Coral snakes are reported to be very docile and make great pets as long as you do not hurt the snake and provoke a bite. I recall a case in my home state where a boy had a pet Coral Snake and no problems, until someone identified it as a Coral Snake instead of a Scarlet Snake. It was just like the situation described in Heinlein's Stranger in a Strange Land.

I have lived in Coral Snake range for 64 years and never seen one. I would love to spot one and get some photos!

[Brumbydownunder]

@Mumbleypeg; (and others who may be interested) Ken while I haven't been able to find out the method/criteria used for that Most Venomous list
I have turned up these gems... sorry one is is oz one in kgs but you'll get the idea...

Eastern Brown Snake .. 1/14,000 of an ounce of its venom is enough to kill an adult human

Inland Taipan ... It has the most toxic venom of any land snake in the world. The maximum yield recorded for one bite is 110mg, enough to kill about 100 humans, or 250,000 mice! With an LD/50 of 0.03mg/kg, it is 10 times as venomous as the Mojave Rattlesnake, and 50 times more than the common Cobra.

I notice it says "land snake" where the sea snakes fit in may be open ....

Road Kill "Red Bellied Black Snake" fresh out of the tanning solution.

And as part of a Knife Slip...

Derek

[Mumbleypeg]

FWIW, I did a little research. According to the Field Guide to Texas Snakes published in 2005:

Coral snake venom is nearly 11 times as lethal as that of a copperhead, 5.26 times as toxic as a cottonmouth, and nearly 4 times as toxic as western diamondback rattlesnake venom.

Despite frequently quoted mortality figures ranging anywhere from 10 to 75 percent, few human fatalities result from coral snake bites. The authors could find no record of a fatality from coral snake bites in the United States since Wyeth coral snake antivenin was made available in 1967.

Ken