Old Hawkbills

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 12:55 am

Very nice Eric!

A&E · Post by **A&E** » Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:01 am

Thanks, G, and yes, Charlie . . . I think we did try to work something out but I just couldn't let it go . . .

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:49 am

A&E wrote:Thanks, G, and yes, Charlie . . . I think we did try to work something out but I just couldn't let it go . . .

I know the feeling

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:29 am

Great bone handles on that one Eric!

upnorth wrote:Nice additions to the Hawkies, Dale! That Rem is quite Full; Kewl!!
The I*XL is interesting. I've seen that even texture on a few knives before, and one was pressed horn, for sure. Is it stag under a glass??

Very interesting Charlie. It is pretty even & one spot looks like it was "made" because of their repeated pattern. However I think it has been exposed to a great deal of heat at some point in it's life. Perhaps in a burning building. Some of the handle appears to me to be scorched, which makes it hard to tell for sure.
Remind me & I will bring it to the Eugene show in April and let you see it in person & see what you think.

Keep up the "Hunt for the Hawks" guys!
Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:37 am

Thought I'd revive this old thread with an old Ulster I got in the mail today. An ebay buy, all thanks to a forum member who tipped me off to a "bad" listing (by bad I mean poor pictures, sketchy description, and low starting price w/ no bids), $5.50 shipped to my door, walks and talk like new, just feeling this knife takes you back about 100 years when times were simpler.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:09 am

on the cheap as well!

very nice old knife.

steve · Post by **steve** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:08 am

heres my only hawkbill in my collection but its a nice case tested xx with wood handles.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:20 am

nice case, steve!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:42 am

That is one SWEET Ulster Kaleb!!!

I am glad someone revived this thread. I thought maybe everyone was getting tired of hawks.

I will have to find the ones I have picked up recently.

Nice Case Steve.

Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:36 pm

Thanks. Nice tested steve. I have picked up a few that I haven't posted, I'll have to photograph them. I got my first German hawk.

Here is one I finished up yesterday. I don't have a single hawk in my collection that I embellished, so I think I'll keep this one. old schrade walden 136 with thin elk stag, silver spiral filework, and I added a 1/2 stop. Not to mention brass pins and brass lined lanyard hole.

Not exactly what I was aiming for though. I was hoping for tapered handles that flared out in the butt to give a nice round cross section and I was going to make a steel buttcap, kinda give it that old world sheffield look, but this is how it turned out. I used no glue whatsoever, strictly the pins holding the scales on, still tried to go the old sheffield route.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:09 pm

Nice revival of an Oldie, Kaleb. That rope (?) filework is amazing!
Here's a recent addition. Just picked it up a couple days ago. Nice blade, no?

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:10 pm

Outstanding Charlie! I never seen a Camillus Hawkbill with the sword brand stamping, nice full blade too! (I'd expect nothing less coming from your collection) Here is a new set of CASEs one from Bama and one from a local fellow.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:17 pm

I couldn't help but notice the similarity between Steves tested and my Ka-Bar, nearly identical! Has to be some sort of connection here.

Steves tested

my ka-bar

blade shape, pull, handle shape pin placement and size, bolster shape, EVERYTHING except the stamp.

Another Knife Collector · Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:02 am

NICE Hawkbills everybody! Somehow I don't have any hawkbills, they've all found their way into my father's collection pictured here. Has Case's, Case XX, IXL, NYK, Ulster, Remington, and many many more, I'll have to show him this thread.

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:06 am

Kind of a Hawk lover isn't he!...............................

Very nice.

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 9:10 am

Well MM do you think that both knives were made at the same factory ?

Did they come from the same punch press die ?

How long is a patten and rights good on a knife pattern?

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:41 am

I don't know but something is definately the same

knife7knut · Post by **knife7knut** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:15 am

Here's a few from my collection:

Camillus with a ChaNelLock etch
George Woodhead circa 1860
Hoffritz with saw and shears blades
John Copley with THICK ebony handles;early Sheffield
Camillus4line
A couple of Russells
An Ulster Dwight Devine unsharpened.Weird blade shape

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:22 am

those shear blades on that hoffritz, what were they intended to cut? game? nice knuves!

knife7knut · Post by **knife7knut** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:48 am

jonet143 wrote:those shear blades on that hoffritz, what were they intended to cut? game? nice knuves!

Thanks Johnnie;I believe the shears were used for garden work.They aren't very heavy duty.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:52 am

knife7knut wrote:
jonet143 wrote:those shear blades on that hoffritz, what were they intended to cut? game? nice knuves!
Thanks Johnnie;I believe the shears were used for garden work.They aren't very heavy duty.

wow, they look like they would cut tin!

is that a brace attached to the shear handle? i guess with a pruning blade, gardening would be a better use.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:01 am

nice hawks there!

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:58 pm

Some nice hawks and collections here. Get your Dad to join up, "another knife collector"!! Some cool pieces knife knife7knut!
MM, Case is known for sub-contracting their utility type knives. Scouts, hawks, and others.

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:20 pm

Charlie, thats interesting, so my ka-bar could very well be of case manufacture? I have two of them the real nice one and one that was tipped that I reshaped as a user. got two more inbound in a hawk collectioin I just acquired

mooseman · Post by **mooseman** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:04 pm

Here is my best old Hawk IXL. The prettiest Stag I have ever seen

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