Old and Obscure Brands

gsmith7158 · Post by **gsmith7158** » Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:56 pm

Wowza! Mike that main Blade oughta be against the law. That's a beauty!

FRJ · Post by **FRJ** » Mon Feb 20, 2017 3:51 am

Great knives, you guys.

WOW! Mike.

Here's an American Knife Co., Plymouth.

bronze4u · Post by **bronze4u** » Wed May 03, 2017 11:31 pm

galvanic1882 wrote:Yes it is similar to an Automatic knife Co knife but does not work on a spring. Here is a picture of mine.

I love the Schmactenberg Brothers knife

BEAUTIFUL ONE!

bronze4u · Post by **bronze4u** » Wed May 03, 2017 11:32 pm

knife7knut wrote:Interesting knife that Lever.Haven't seen one of those before.Here are a couple with similar opening devices:
The first is made by Schmactenberg Brothers in Germany.It has two blades(sadly one is broken)at opposite ends and the round button is pushed down parallel to the blade to elevate it at about 20 degrees so it can be pulled open manually.
The second is by the Automatic Knife Co of Middletown CT and when the tab on the end is pushed sideways the spring pushes the blade out to about 20 degrees so that it also can be pulled open.This one is in near mint condition and made just before or around 1900.

Really, again very nice!

bronze4u · Post by **bronze4u** » Wed May 03, 2017 11:33 pm

galvanic1882 wrote:I have a few knives with the same pull on them, thanks for showing yours.

I don't know if I ever posted this one before? It is Marked LEVER CUTLERY CO. There are patent dates on the back of both tangs. The company appears to have been in Brooklyn NY. You pull the levers down to open the blade so that you can grab it to open it all the way. I think the handles are Gutta Purcha but am not sure. This is a rare knife and I have only seen 2 of these. The one I own and another that sold on ebay awhile ago for over 400. It is 2 3/4" closed not counting the levers that stick out when the knife is closed.

Nice knife! I have a few similar ones.. very cool!

bronze4u · Post by **bronze4u** » Tue May 23, 2017 8:19 pm

Nice one! Let me know if it's ever up for trade, or sale? I have a Canal Street right now if you'd like? Or other knives/razors.

Cheers,

Kirk

Berryb · Post by **Berryb** » Wed May 24, 2017 4:55 am

This is my oldest and obscurest. I posted it long ago but this is about the one year anniversary of it comin' to my house'. It's a Connecticut Cutlery Co. Naugatuck.

LongBlade · Post by **LongBlade** » Wed May 24, 2017 12:18 pm

That is one nice hawkbill from Conn Cut Co Berryb

.... Blade is in pretty good shape despite kick being filed down, nice old stag handle with end cap and a different style pivot bolster for a hawkbill as well

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ratlesnake75 · Post by **ratlesnake75** » Fri May 26, 2017 9:29 pm

FRJ wrote:I bought a couple of Doctors knives back in 2014.
Never owned a Dr. knife before and these two beauties show up on the same day.
It's nice to put them in here. I think they're old and obscure.
Thanks for looking.

Very sweet Union knife Works in a desirable pattern too FRJ. I have owned a few Union knife works but this is the 1st one in a Doctor pattern that I have seen,,,lovely knife Bro AND your killing me with that wood HOLLEY!!!

Thats one Sweet & Super Rare STAG Conn HAWK Berryb!!! Great showing
Kind Regards,
Mark

TripleF · Post by **TripleF** » Fri May 26, 2017 10:32 pm

Bridge Cutlery Co St. Louis......OPG to Collector Knives says 1915! One year.....

Old Folder · Post by **Old Folder** » Sat May 27, 2017 5:15 am

TripleF wrote:Bridge Cutlery Co St. Louis......OPG to Collector Knives says 1915! One year.....

Nice one Scott;
I have a couple "Bridge Cutlery Co." folders. Have to dig em out and post em.
My books have it as a "Shapleigh Hdw. Co brand." c1902-1931
High Value

steve99f · Post by **steve99f** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 11:53 am

Just picked this Crown Cutlery wharncliffe whittler up at a flea market. Tang is marked Crown Cutlery arched over New York with USA on the bottom line. Don't know much about it. A search indicated it may have been made by Queen. Utica has been mentioned too. Shield is in an odd spot, great bone and jigging, about 3 1/2 inches closed.

RobesonsRme.com · Post by **RobesonsRme.com** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:27 pm

The Crown knife is a mystery to me.

The pattern just seems odd, such a severe arc to it.

The jigging and dye of the bone seems out of place in a knife from a company that existed from 1900 to 1930.

The Wharnecliff master blade looks short to me.

And, as you stated, the shield is not located in a traditional spot.

I'm only well educated on a couple of brands and Crown is not one of them.

Charlie Noyes

btrwtr · Post by **btrwtr** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:56 pm

The Crown knife may be old but the handles are modern replacements which explains the weird shield location. Notice how the angle on the liner cutout for the small pen blade is different than the angle on the bone.

I can't tell from the pictures. Are the nail pulls on both of the small blades facing the respective side handles?

steve99f · Post by **steve99f** » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:47 pm

I'm sure the Wharncliffe didn't leave the factory that way, it been worked on and it is short. The swedge doesn't look quite uniform on each side. A decent job of re-purposing but not factory. Wayne, the nail pulls do face the thumb nick in each handle, pretty well centered too. Can't tell from my pictures but the mark side pivot pin sits proud to the handle, not a lot but too much to have left a factory that way. Neither of the secondary blades are marked.

Charlie, you mention a severe arc. Are you referring to the blade or the frame?

rexstubbins · Post by **rexstubbins** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 2:50 am

Hard to find any reference to any of these. Pacific Hardware (Hdwe.) & Steel Co. San Francisco, CA

Reference books say 1901 - 1918

A little used up but I like it.

philco · Post by **philco** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:17 am

"The words vintage and antique are vague. Actually most words are vague. Even the word vague is vague".

What a wonderful "vintage" knife.

rexstubbins · Post by **rexstubbins** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 3:37 am

philco wrote:"The words vintage and antique are vague. Actually most words are vague. Even the word vague is vague".

What a wonderful "vintage" knife.

Aww. Comon now Phil. 1918 don't make it antique?

LongBlade · Post by **LongBlade** » Fri Jun 09, 2017 12:49 pm

Nice old knife RexS

... In addition to the Pacific Hdwe & Steel Co stamp, the Gunstock jacks are also no doubt more rare to find !! Pacific Hdwe & Steel Co being a retailer had their knives made by others - in Levines they note Napanoch as one and in Goins he also notes BB Knife Co which is of interest

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kootenay joe · Post by **kootenay joe** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 8:21 pm

This pearl 4 blade Senator is marked on all blades: "C.E.B. Co./Dover, N.H." This is for Charles E. Brewster a "druggist" in Dover N.H. circa 1880's according to LG4. He does say importer or manufacturer etc. but safe to assume Mr. Brewster did not make knives. This one could be of USA or German manufacture.
Only one of this marking i have seen.
kj

edge213 · Post by **edge213** » Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:13 pm

Wabash Cutlery
Terre Haute IN

edge213 · Post by **edge213** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:23 am

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wiseguy · Post by **wiseguy** » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:16 am

Great thread ! As far as American automatics go this fits the topic. BOWIE KNIFE over NEWARK.NJ.

edge213 · Post by **edge213** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:50 pm

W.R.B. Co.
TERRE HAUTE

My other knives from Terre Haute IN. (Wabash Cutlery and W.R.B.)

treefarmer · Post by **treefarmer** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:30 pm

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