camillus #72

[kootenay joe]

It's even fun to loose especially when the knife shows up here & then you get to have some discussion about it.
kj

[SolWarrior]

Just so you know Felix I'm back in the hunt for the next one.

Right on, Greg. I'm not sure if I'll jump in until I see the actual knife but should be fun. Unleash The Hounds!!!

I just found this knife in my ebay "didn't win" list. I did not come in second in auction for the First Gen won by Felix. Cheapo me came in 6th ! $33.20 under winning bid.
kj

So the mysterious runner up bidder is still out there somewhere. Might not even be a AAPK member.

"I bid on that one too. I thought my 55 dollar bid would take it.... Its a good thing I lost out, I really didn't have the cash! But I do have an old wooden cigar box full change! Next time..... "

Good luck, Randy! ..and to the rest as well!

[SolWarrior]

Has anyone seen the Camillus Sword Brand Split Back Whittler listed here on AAPK? Run don't walk or you'll lose your chance to dish out $495.00! Ironically for sale by paydirt. IMHO, it was rehandled at some point but just a guess. Any opinions? https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... -mint-mint

[jerryd6818]

My latest showed up today. Didn't need it but it was so lonely just floating around out there in the bay, I just had to bring it home. I was the only bidder. Very good condition for 40+ years old.

[#goldpan]

Nice one Jerry, she is a keeper

[ScoutKnives]

Not a 72 knife but this real glass round display case would hold 24 of them nicely

[#goldpan]

Nice looking Camillus Case SK. It would look nice indeed with a clutch of 72's on display

[jerryd6818]

[Tsar Bomba]

You get busy with work and car stuff for a couple days and this thread positive erupts.

First, what I learned from the last two pages about that 1st-gen auction is that, between Randy, kj and Felix, I didn't stand a snowball's chance from the get-go. I think I capped out under $60 (wtf was I thinking???), so I was definitely not #2. It shot up by over $35 in the last five seconds of the listing. The light polishing Felix did makes that thing look worth almost twice that.

Apparently getting away with my 1st-gen for $100 was the best deal I'm going to find, huh? Thank you, mismatched handles!

Felix, stop cleaning or polishing those bone 72s. Make that quality carbon steel sing on the stone and drop em in a pocket, you're done. And enjoy 'em - but leave the next bone 72 for the hounds that were turned away.

ScoutKnives, that display is awesome! Did you snag it on feebay or was it an in-person find? I've started hounding secondhand shops and antique stores for knife-specific displays, and even old furniture or cabinets that would server as classy knife displays. It's not a cheap pasttime. Then again, neither is sitting around AAPK and watching the knives scroll across the top.

So today I got the double-side saber-ground 1047 from the BIN listing last week and there is definite evidence of amateurish repinning on both sides of the master pivot/bolsters. Kind of upsetting as it was totally not detailed in the description and the photos appear washed-out at the point where you'd see the pin/bolster damage so that you would disregard as a lens flare or artifact but not think there could be physical damage to the metal there. I didn't bust out the loupe to inspect my laptop screen but I did do my best to spot this kind of obvious damage.

Long and short, I think this might be a reblade/cobbled knife. For what I paid, I'm chewing on the possibility of excoriating the seller in a message and keeping it anyway - it's an otherwise solid and good-looking BSA whittler, all the parts appear to be correct for Camillus 1047s (just maybe some from different eras), and what I paid isn't outrageous. I just don't love the lie of omission when you're trying to sell a knife that was evidently overlisted for what it is, and I certainly don't love the idea of rewarding someone for that.

This is my first real disappointment in getting a 72/1047/clone, but from the perspective of a good user knife it's probably worth the dough.

[Colonel26]

My latest showed up today. Didn't need it but it was so lonely just floating around out there in the bay, I just had to bring it home. I was the only bidder. Very good condition for 40+ years old.

Cuz of all the post 46 variations the ones with handle pins and federal shields are my favorites. That's a real nice one.

[ScoutKnives]

Tony the Camillus display case came from an estate sale a few years ago were I ended up purchasing 4 knife cases , 1 Ulster , 2 Remington and the Camillus , not sure how old the Camillus case is but the other 3 were per WWII .

[Tsar Bomba]

Tony the Camillus display case came from an estate sale a few years ago were I ended up purchasing 4 knife cases , 1 Ulster , 2 Remington and the Camillus , not sure how old the Camillus case is but the other 3 were per WWII .

The Camillus logo I think of as "diner-style" was definitely present on catalogs from the early-mid 1950s. Sorry I can't give you a better range than that.

[jerryd6818]

My latest showed up today. Didn't need it but it was so lonely just floating around out there in the bay, I just had to bring it home. I was the only bidder. Very good condition for 40+ years old.

Cuz of all the post 46 variations the ones with handle pins and federal shields are my favorites. That's a real nice one.

Well that takes you right up to 1976 because that's the year Camillus stopped pinning the handles on the 72's. So that gives you 30 years of Camillus 72's to pick from.

[Colonel26]

My latest showed up today. Didn't need it but it was so lonely just floating around out there in the bay, I just had to bring it home. I was the only bidder. Very good condition for 40+ years old.

Cuz of all the post 46 variations the ones with handle pins and federal shields are my favorites. That's a real nice one.

Well that takes you right up to 1976 because that's the year Camillus stopped pinning the handles on the 72's. So that gives you 30 years of Camillus 72's to pick from.

Well that stinks. They ought to have held off another year. That just had to pick the year I was hatched to mess with things.

[Colonel26]

You get busy with work and car stuff for a couple days and this thread positive erupts.

First, what I learned from the last two pages about that 1st-gen auction is that, between Randy, kj and Felix, I didn't stand a snowball's chance from the get-go. I think I capped out under $60 (wtf was I thinking???), so I was definitely not #2. It shot up by over $35 in the last five seconds of the listing. The light polishing Felix did makes that thing look worth almost twice that.

Apparently getting away with my 1st-gen for $100 was the best deal I'm going to find, huh? Thank you, mismatched handles!

Felix, stop cleaning or polishing those bone 72s. Make that quality carbon steel sing on the stone and drop em in a pocket, you're done. And enjoy 'em - but leave the next bone 72 for the hounds that were turned away.

ScoutKnives, that display is awesome! Did you snag it on feebay or was it an in-person find? I've started hounding secondhand shops and antique stores for knife-specific displays, and even old furniture or cabinets that would server as classy knife displays. It's not a cheap pasttime. Then again, neither is sitting around AAPK and watching the knives scroll across the top.

So today I got the double-side saber-ground 1047 from the BIN listing last week and there is definite evidence of amateurish repinning on both sides of the master pivot/bolsters. Kind of upsetting as it was totally not detailed in the description and the photos appear washed-out at the point where you'd see the pin/bolster damage so that you would disregard as a lens flare or artifact but not think there could be physical damage to the metal there. I didn't bust out the loupe to inspect my laptop screen but I did do my best to spot this kind of obvious damage.

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Long and short, I think this might be a reblade/cobbled knife. For what I paid, I'm chewing on the possibility of excoriating the seller in a message and keeping it anyway - it's an otherwise solid and good-looking BSA whittler, all the parts appear to be correct for Camillus 1047s (just maybe some from different eras), and what I paid isn't outrageous. I just don't love the lie of omission when you're trying to sell a knife that was evidently overlisted for what it is, and I certainly don't love the idea of rewarding someone for that.

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This is my first real disappointment in getting a 72/1047/clone, but from the perspective of a good user knife it's probably worth the dough.

I don't know if it was totally repinned. Maybe it got loose and they whacked it back right. Regardless is a good looking knife. It'll be a fine user.

[jerryd6818]

Well just look at it as one from the year you were conceived.
You can't pin 'em down to a year anyway. Most of the time, you'd be lucky to pin them down to a decade.

[Colonel26]

Well just look at it as one from the year you were conceived.
You can't pin 'em down to a year anyway. Most of the time, you'd be lucky to pin them down to a decade.

True.

[#goldpan]

I think its a good knife Tony. Same as the Colonel IMHO its original and has been "tightened" up a bit. That's the feeling I get from that pin and bolster. Good deal Tony. Great EDC

[Tsar Bomba]

I don't know if it was totally repinned. Maybe it got loose and they whacked it back right. Regardless is a good looking knife. It'll be a fine user.

I'm inclined to agree that it's probably something more innocent as such, and chalk this one up to not making a lowball offer expressing concerns and/or requesting detailed info in advance. Lesson learned, I s'pose. I'm probably going to give him at least a smidget of spit over creative language in the description but it's the nicest-looking 1047 I have (and the second ) and I can tell from the existing bevel that the master will take a real demon of an edge, which should be interesting on a blade this stout. I'll bet it'll carve Scott's fatwood like warm butter.

The only downside now is that there's no real believable way to represent the knife as long-line double-sided saber master, despite the otherwise "historically accurate" appearance. It'll have to be my little secret whether or not I peen & polish the pivot to see if the minuscule play in the master goes away and the 'dings' from the last owner can be minimized.

I think its a good knife Tony. Same as the Colonel IMHO its original and has been "tightened" up a bit. That's the feeling I get from that pin and bolster. Good deal Tony. Great EDC

Thanks, Randy, it's good to think that I've got a bit of a peculiarity, something Camillus seems famous for (even among other cutlers), in a longline double-saber-grind.

[jerryd6818]

Here's an odd one. Saber ground on both sides. Monster swedge on the pile side. Same blade compliment as a 1st Gen Camillus. Delrin handles. Polished blades. Football shield, installed catawampus. And it's a............. Kutmaster.

[SolWarrior]

Talk about eruptions! I post then leave for the evening and ::Boom::. Very nice pick ups! Starting with Jerry's lonely 72 with some fine scales of what appears to be a nice imitation of Rogers bone.

Scoutknives, very nice find. That nice rounded glass display case gives me the butterflies; a flashback feeling of times gone by. I think Tony hit it on the head with his description of a "diner style" display case. Sweet!

Tony, that's a nice 1047. Personally, I like that style scout shield over the round ones. It wouldn't hurt to politely ask for a discount after explaining the problems with the knife and his listing. I've done it and got $20 put back on my paypal account when I bought a LF&C Universal pruner (circa 1918) that did not have the snap as described. It's worth a shot, and getting something back can go a long way with feeling better about your transaction, buddy.

Oh, and by the way, Tony, I sold two Schrade 152OT Sharpfingers yesterday evening. One early model NIB and a nice user, both for $160. Should go a long ways for the next "bone 72" up for grabs. I'm kidding!... ..or am I?

[kootenay joe]

Camillus made knives for other knife companies but i have not read that Utica was one of them. Do you think this Utica Kutmaster is a Camillus made knife ?
kj

[jerryd6818]

This is most all the variations over the years from 1946 to when the doors closed at Camillus. Starting in the upper left corner with Tommy's pre-war split back spring whittler and ending with the #5 in the lower right corner. Each of these knives has something that's just a little different from the rest of the bunch whether it be tang stamp, blade compliment, handle material, handle color, shield, etc, etc. There's probably more but I just couldn't generate any enthusiasm for getting real detailed.

[jerryd6818]

Camillus made knives for other knife companies but i have not read that Utica was one of them. Do you think this Utica Kutmaster is a Camillus made knife ?
kj

No, definitely not.

[carrmillus]

This is most all the variations over the years from 1946 to when the doors closed at Camillus. Starting in the upper left corner with Tommy's pre-war split back spring whittler and ending with the #5 in the lower right corner. Each of these knives has something that's just a little different from the rest of the bunch whether it be tang stamp, blade compliment, handle material, handle color, shield, etc, etc. There's probably more but I just couldn't generate any enthusiasm for getting real detailed.

.....jerry, I think you left out the yello-jaket with the wasp on the handle????............ ...........