The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
jerryd6818 wrote:Grant, so good to "see" you. Looks like all it takes is a few 72s to bring you out into the sunshine. I hope life is getting at least a little bit better for you.
Still waiting on the insurance payout.It's been over three months.They have not decided to rebuild the house or pay me out.
They find every little reason to slow thing down.
Grant
Politicians should be like a good pocket knife ." Sharp and useful "
jerryd6818 wrote:They are not. I'm in Madison right now. I'll post pictures when I get home.
How about the Scout with white handles?
Just how interested are you in the various variations of 72s & the clones?
Hello, Jerry: Are 72 "clones" 72s made by someone other than Camillus? Thanks!
jerryd6818 wrote:Felix, Camillus being the parent of the 72 (I've never found anything to the contrary), that's my definition.
I've been waiting on Jerryd to answer that question because I wasn't sure how you would characterize the clones that were made in the Schrade factory that have the swindon key. I quest since they were under the same umbrella at the time it's probably a moot point.
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Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
Greg, I stay away from that who owned who, when and who shot who behind who's barn stuff. It's just all too confusing and I have no interest in wading through old records (and have no access to them anyway) trying to figure out how things came to be the way they are. Unless you were boots on the ground when it was going on, most of it is conjecture anyway.
So I'm convinced that Camillus was the one that came up with the #72 pattern and it was so popular that shortly afterwards, Schrade copied it (thus a clone). Those two companies made the lion's share of the SFO's (clones) for other tang stamps, but others like Lamplough (maybe) made their own. See, I even call an SFO by Camillus a clone. It's my way of dealing with all the stamps and trying to bring some order to the situation. If something different works for you, (the generic you) have at it.
Simplified, for me if it doesn't say Camillus on the tang, it's a clone.
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Jerry D.
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"The #72 pattern has got to be pretty close to the perfect knife."
--T.J. Murphy 2012
jerryd6818 wrote:Greg, I stay away from that who owned who, when and who shot who behind who's barn stuff. It's just all too confusing and I have no interest in wading through old records (and have no access to them anyway) trying to figure out how things came to be the way they are. Unless you were boots on the ground when it was going on, most of it is conjecture anyway.
So I'm convinced that Camillus was the one that came up with the #72 pattern and it was so popular that shortly afterwards, Schrade copied it (thus a clone). Those two companies made the lion's share of the SFO's (clones) for other tang stamps, but others like Lamplough (maybe) made their own. See, I even call an SFO by Camillus a clone. It's my way of dealing with all the stamps and trying to bring some order to the situation. If something different works for you, (the generic you) have at it.
Simplified, for me if it doesn't say Camillus on the tang, it's a clone.
I'm with you on avoiding confusion Jerryd so if it looks like a 72 we'll just call it a Camillus clone.
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Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
carrmillus wrote:...nice looking short line first gen. bone handled #72 on ebay today for only $150.00!!!......... ...........
Tommy there's quite difference in that front and rear handle. You don't suppose they have started cobbling up our 72's after that one went for $82 the other day do you?
I know one thing. It sure seems we here on aapk set the market on Camillus 72's in general and first years in particular.
They've escalated drastically since I bought my first one.
“There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.”
Robert E. Lee
I don't know what it is abut that one but I still haven't convinced myself that the mark side handle is bone plus the pen looks ever so slightly tipped and now with a possible bent master I'm going to say definitely not a $150 knife. I can't recall who it was, maybe stockman or shearer showed one a month or two ago and it is dead mint. Now that was a $150 (or more) knife.
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Greg
IF YOU AIN'T BUYING OR LOOKING AT A KNIFE THEN YOU AIN'T LIVING.
Always looking to buy good quality Empire knives.
That mark side sure looks delrin from here. Maybe not though, but it's suspicious.
carrmillus wrote:...looks bent to me, too!!!...or as my grandpa used to say..."antigogling"....!!...... ...........
Here we'd say "sidegoggeled" or "sidegoggling".
“There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.”
Robert E. Lee
Glad I got one right, Carrmillus... ...and learned a new term for bent in the process too.
Greg, I think you might be talking about Harold's (Stockman) 72 on page 68 of this thread. Don't ask how I knew. Can't yet. Don't want something like this or this happening.
Well, it arrived yesterday, and I still don't feel worthy of it... ...not sure I ever will. I wanted a user but this one is in immaculate shape and I can't bring myself to even carry it. A huge shout out to Harold (Stockman)!!! Thank you so much for honoring me with this beautiful, breathtaking knife. To Harold Thank you, buddy!!!