Camillus R.I.P.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:28 am

Some of you may have seen these auctions a couple of weeks ago. Some well preserved examples from a salesman's roll, they inspired me to teeter on the edge of credit card disaster!
I gotta enroll in the 12 step program . . . . . soon!
Anyway, please enjoy, and tell me what you know about them also!! I know a lot of you know about Camillus. I, on the other hand have not ventured too far in that direction, until now!

W5RWU · Post by **W5RWU** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:48 am

"I gotta enroll in the 12 step program"
Hi my name is Randy and I have not bought a knife in 12 hours!
I understand the feeling !
We need camco to you fill you in on camillus , I also dont know about them, but they are looking good!
w5rwu

stockman · Post by **stockman** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 5:26 pm

Hello upnorth, nice knives all three. I have not paid attention to Camillus over the years, that was a mistake. I have been watching for them recently.

Stockman

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:03 pm

Very nice north guy

Excellent find!

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:33 pm

Charlie, those Camillus’ are looking GOOD!

The funny thing about Camillus is that a lot of people who don't give the Camillus branded knives a second look; often have a good number of knives in their collections that are made by Camillus for other companies.

Dale

Duffy · Post by **Duffy** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:31 pm

Orvet, did Camillus make the Remington R12 trappers back in the 1990's? I've got one and it looks exactly like a Camillus trapper that I have.

Gr8Scout · Post by **Gr8Scout** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:23 pm

Camillus knives are doing the same thing Schrade products did a couple of years ago; that is spiking way up in price. In a year or two, those will be worth less than half what you paid for them. Doesn't matter if they are recent production, or older ones. Most ridiculous thing I've seen lately is a couple models from the Yello Jaket series going for well over $150. Insane.

Yes, Duffy, Camillus made those Remington reproductions in the 90s.

Duffy · Post by **Duffy** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:06 pm

Thanks for the info scout. I'm sorry Upnorth, I didn't mean to highjack your post. I get a question on my mind and if I don't ask it then, I'll forget what I wanted to know.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:35 am

Gr8Scout wrote:Camillus knives are doing the same thing Schrade products did a couple of years ago; that is spiking way up in price. In a year or two, those will be worth less than half what you paid for them. Doesn't matter if they are recent production, or older ones. Most ridiculous thing I've seen lately is a couple models from the Yello Jaket series going for well over $150. Insane.

You may be right, Scoutman, but I think these "samples" will hold up in value. How many are out there?

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:49 am

old bone knives will grow in value while the newer will settle. imo

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:08 am

Duffy wrote:Thanks for the info scout. I'm sorry Upnorth, I didn't mean to highjack your post. I get a question on my mind and if I don't ask it then, I'll forget what I wanted to know.

As my kids say, Duffy, "It's all good!"

msteele6 · Post by **msteele6** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:44 am

I agree with jonet143, the old bone handled ones will retain their value.

I've never seen one with three blades like that moose(?), does it have three backsprings?

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:46 am

Yes, three backsprings. Here's the other side. Interesting blade arrangement, no??

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:13 am

wow. and the swedges! extreme good!

Sauconian · Post by **Sauconian** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:33 am

Great shape on those blades.

Interesting that the tang stamps are different.

Fran

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 6:07 am

Look at those blades, outstanding Charlie!

msteele6 · Post by **msteele6** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:02 am

On the tang stamps, Goins shows that combination, arched on secondaries, straight on master as being used c. 1915-1916.

stockman · Post by **stockman** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:33 pm

Hay Charlie, where does the clip blade fall when closed on the stock knife? Is it on the outside or in the center? Maybe like a whittler. I don't know much about Camillus and how they did things. The other network is beating your knives up a little. Talk about blade welds two different tang stamps on the same knife,maybe some of the old Camillus guys can come in and set the record stright. We all have Camillus stuff made on contract. Your knives are always very interesting, and always NICE! I think msteele6 had the answer on the tang stamp question.

Stockman

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:07 pm

Stockman, the main falls between the secondaries, sort of like a whittler.And yes, Bernie Levine is pretty sceptical. I will research all his objections, as I want to be sure these are correct. I think they are, as they came from a factory insider. He wants to stay out of the picture for now.

Here's the link for those who would like to view the slugfest

!
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=519887

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:19 pm

msteele6 wrote:On the tang stamps, Goins shows that combination, arched on secondaries, straight on master as being used c. 1915-1916.

Thanks for looking that up, msteele! I've seen old Case and Remington knives with two or three different stamps on the same knife.
It's not unreasonable IMO, because some stamps won't fit, and sometimes there is inventory of blades unused, for years! Its amazing what Queen has in its store rooms!

Phil Gibbs · Post by **Phil Gibbs** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:15 am

Charlie,

As these knives were from the Factory Collection, I think it is safe to assume they were the "first of that model" samples.

I hope my post at "the other place" makes a difference.

Best regards,

Phil

W5RWU · Post by **W5RWU** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 3:29 am

Phil ,glad to see you here!! come back soon !
Randy -w5rwu

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:14 pm

Phil Gibbs wrote:Charlie,

As these knives were from the Factory Collection, I think it is safe to assume they were the "first of that model" samples.

I hope my post at "the other place" makes a difference.

Best regards,

Phil

Yes, Phil, your posts have helped immensely.
Once again, allow me to refer everyone to "the other place" with this link;
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... p?t=519887

stockman · Post by **stockman** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:39 pm

Charlie, I think that the knives are of high value, a piece of history. Patterns of knives to come. They are a nice addition to your collection.

Stockman

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:14 pm

I'm forming that opinion also, stockman. Interesting twist of events.
I assume you've read Levine's forum?