Empire Knife Company - old or new

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merlechris
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Empire Knife Company - old or new

Post by merlechris »

http://cgi.ebay.com/EMPIRE-W-WINSTED-CT ... dZViewItem


This item on eBay looks legit to me (item # 190175555548), but I would like to hear peoples' opinion on the seller's claim that the knife was constructed from old stock. It certainly isn't the German reproduction knife.

I remember seeing an exact duplicate of this knife on eBay last year, but that knife certainly looked old and worn. Thanks.
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it has been cleaned, you can tell by the blade finish and the lack of a choil. maybe an old knife, but it's been cleaned up either way.
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Post by gto4spd »

it's what the seller says. made from parts. old parts ... new parts... well it's a crap shoot. i wouldn't do it. just my opinion.
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Post by stockman »

New or at least recent I have seen this same knife with other tang stamps. These are also in different patterns but you can tell they are made the same place. I once saw a roll of these stamped NYK Co. that was said to be a salesman sample roll all phony. Bone on them is all alike. Good looking knives but not the real deal.

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Post by knife7knut »

I have a knife in my collection with that exact front bolster stamped,"Edward K.Tryon Company" and I know it is old.Probably exactly what the seller claims:assembled from old parts.Sort of like a Shelby Continuation Cobra but worth less.
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Post by msteele6 »

I asked the seller about a knife marked Wilbert that was essentially identical to this one and he told me that the parts came out of the old Ulster factory.

I personally have seen quite a few, virtually identical to this one, with many different marks, including one I own marked Utica. Pretty high quality but not, in my opinion, authentic.
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Post by stockman »

The knife is at $70.00 and five days left very cheap for a real Empire, very high for who knows what! I have also seen the Wilberts, and like I posted earlier others. These knives were made to decieve, that is why they are in these very collectable names.

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