Hawbakers Special
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Hawbakers Special
I'm Almost afraid to ask this question to the chagrin of the experts here but I have exhausted all of my research tools and cannot find the answer. I am wondering about the relationship between W.R. Case and Stanley Hawbaker. I see that Hawbaker retired from his trapping business in 1977 and his sons carried on. My question is whether the later editions of the Hawbaker Special muskrat were SFO'S for that company or just a special issue from Case.
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Re: Hawbakers Special
If you have access to American Premium Guide to Knives And Razors 7th edition, by Jim Sargent, there is an article about Hawbaker and Case. If you don't have this book and are interested in Case, you need this book. Here you are: https://books.google.com/books?id=LL_7w ... on&f=false. As to the later versions, somebody that knows more will probably be along shortly.
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Re: Hawbakers Special
Thanks for the tip. I don't have that book. But soon will.
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I've searched online for Sargent's book but can only find one place that has the seventh edition. Asking price is $137.00 which seems quite high to me. Is that the going rate? The sixth edition is available for $30.00.
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Re: Hawbakers Special
I have electronic PDF version of Sargent's 7th edition. Don't remember where I got it, but came on a DVD. It is very convenient to be able to use the Adobe Acrobat reader and search feature. The DVD appears to be available on Amazon.com
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Re: Hawbakers Special
I would think that is way over priced. Check Knife World/Knife Magazine book sales.They may have the newer edition.gsmith7158 wrote:I've searched online for Sargent's book but can only find one place that has the seventh edition. Asking price is $137.00 which seems quite high to me. Is that the going rate? The sixth edition is available for $30.00.
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It looks like if you own one of these seventh edition books with the DVD you can make more money on the book than alot of the knives listed in it. All the first line sellers are out of stock at the list price of $27.95. Some resllers have a new ine listed as high as $175.00.
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Knife world has a copy with the DVD in their out of print and damaged section for $35.
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I dod not see that section. Iwill check again. Thanks.
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My book came with the Dvd attached to the inside of the back cover.
These are not that expensive,don't get to hasty.
These are not that expensive,don't get to hasty.

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Here's a copy you can afford. Actually seller says 8 copies available.
http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... s&x=72&y=8
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Sold two months ago.peanut740 wrote:Knife world has a copy with the DVD in their out of print and damaged section for $35.
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They do have a DVD but all the books are sixth editions. May have to settle for that.Mumbleypeg wrote:Here's a copy you can afford. Actually seller says 8 copies available.http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... s&x=72&y=8
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Don't worry about that.$175 would get you a pretty good knife.wlf wrote:My book came with the Dvd attached to the inside of the back cover.
These are not that expensive,don't get to hasty.
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Re: Hawbakers Special
Look again. 7th edition came with DVD included. The listing I'm seeing in the link provided says new, factory sealed copies, which if so should be the book and DVD. Quote from the website listing:gsmith7158 wrote:They do have a DVD but all the books are sixth editions. May have to settle for that.Mumbleypeg wrote:Here's a copy you can afford. Actually seller says 8 copies available.http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... s&x=72&y=8
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"Item Description: Krause Publications 2009-02-02, 2009. DVD-ROM. Book Condition: New. Seventh Edition. 144020375X Brand new! Factory sealed. Bookseller Inventory # Z144020375XZN"
If in doubt there is a capability on the website to send a question to the seller. This site is abebooks.com. American Book Exchange web site. It is where independent book sellers list their books for sale.
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Thanks Ken, I just order 2 ( one for me and another for a friend )Mumbleypeg wrote:Here's a copy you can afford. Actually seller says 8 copies available.http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... s&x=72&y=8
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Mumbleypeg wrote:Look again. 7th edition came with DVD included. The listing I'm seeing in the link provided says new, factory sealed copies, which if so should be the book and DVD. Quote from the website listing:gsmith7158 wrote:They do have a DVD but all the books are sixth editions. May have to settle for that.Mumbleypeg wrote:Here's a copy you can afford. Actually seller says 8 copies available.http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchR ... s&x=72&y=8
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"Item Description: Krause Publications 2009-02-02, 2009. DVD-ROM. Book Condition: New. Seventh Edition. 144020375X Brand new! Factory sealed. Bookseller Inventory # Z144020375XZN"
If in doubt there is a capability on the website to send a question to the seller. This site is abebooks.com. American Book Exchange web site. It is where independent book sellers list their books for sale. Mumbleypeg as you have probably figured out I am A little technology challenged but I do believe I have figured it out and just ordered one. Thank you very much.
Ken
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Re: Hawbakers Special
We kind of veered away from the original intent of this post but I see in Sargent's book that the relationship between Case And Hawbaker's Supply remains intact with Stanley's son at the helm of the company. Interesting though that there are some big gaps in the orders.
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gsmith7158 wrote:Mumbleypeg as you have probably figured out I am A little technology challenged but I do believe I have figured it out and just ordered one. Thank you very much.

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Mumbleypeg wrote:gsmith7158 wrote:Mumbleypeg as you have probably figured out I am A little technology challenged but I do believe I have figured it out and just ordered one. Thank you very much.

Ken[/quote Ken got my order today but it was the DVD only, no book. Should have known for $8.99. But since we are on this this thread thought I would show off my first Hawbaker Special.
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Sorry.
The listing clearly said "Book condition new" so if you're so inclined contact the seller, tell them you were expecting a book, and request a refund. Also, as I recall there were several other sellers with listings for not a lot more money. If in doubt contact the seller and ask if it's the book or only the DVD, before you buy. You can send the seller a question directly from the abebooks.com website. At the bottom of each listing click where it says "Ask Bookseller a question". I've done that before and received a response within a day.
BTW, nice knife!
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BTW, nice knife!

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It's no biggy. I got a 6th edition book so I can just use that DVD as an update although I will have to break out my old laptop. Most of these new ones don't have them. I guess they are tring to push everone towards downloads.Mumbleypeg wrote:Sorry.![]()
The listing clearly said "Book condition new" so if you're so inclined contact the seller, tell them you were expecting a book, and request a refund. Also, as I recall there were several other sellers with listings for not a lot more money. If in doubt contact the seller and ask if it's the book or only the DVD, before you buy. You can send the seller a question directly from the abebooks.com website. At the bottom of each listing click where it says "Ask Bookseller a question". I've done that before and received a response within a day.
BTW, nice knife!![]()
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