Bradford era Case 6294J collectible or junk?

[Another Knife Collector]

This knife is in bad shape, a previous owner snapped a blade out of it and it's missing the shield. However, I have never seen a 6294J as old as this one, which leaves me wondering not being much of a case expert, is this collectible as a rare example or just an interesting piece of junk? If it's no good I'll replace the blade and shield and make it a carry knife.

[cato]

keeper for sure, would say collectible for my part

nice ole knife

[peanut740]

Not junk.Someone that needed a good set of handles would pay well for it.

[Mumbleypeg]

Looks like a keeper to me! I've got some worse.

Ken

[roofsc]

either way your are saving a knife !!

[zp4ja]

Certainly not junk, actually pretty scarce but I personally would not consider as a "Collectible" either. Just my opinion.

"J" model are not seen too often.

I assume double end Jack with Spear and Clip, correct? Can tell in pics. Any pics with both blades open (entire blades) by chance?

Jerry

[MrBlister]

Its missin the J-BLADE....
see in his first post up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

HET

[zp4ja]

Its missin the J-BLADE....
see in his first post up there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

HET

Take your own advice. Actually you need to re read it. He does NOT say blade is "missing" as you say. He actually says "snapped a blade out of it""

A snapped blade is not a missing blade, it is a broken blade

[djknife13]

If that were my knife, without any hesitation I would try to locate an original blade and shield and have it professionally repaired. It would be a rare but repaired Case XX example and in my opinion, be worth considerably more than in it's present condition. You may not recover the cost of the repair, but you would the privilege of owning a great old knife that's a pleasure to look at instead of a damaged knife that looks like it could use some attention, with some parts that are worth some amount of money. I found a very rare Ka-Bar Grizzly with wood handles glued on. I had the wood replaced with Stag and never questioned my decision.___Dave

[MrBlister]

the blade is NOT THERE . .
hence missing...
it reads snapped OUT.
if there was a blade there..
itd show in the pics...
put on those Dr Moreau glasses and L@@K..
the J is not there in the pics..
its missing... miss-ing -- not present or included when expected or supposed to be.

HET in advance

[Dragline]

the blade is NOT THERE . .
hence missing...
it reads snapped OUT.
if there was a blade there..
itd show in the pics...
put on those Dr Moreau glasses and L@@K..
the J is not there in the pics..
its missing... miss-ing -- not present or included when expected or supposed to be.

HET in advance

It ain't there

[djknife13]

I just looked the 6294J up in Steve's book. I'm guessing finding a replacement blade is probably not an option. Sure wish I had a couple mint ones sitting in my safe. Wouldn't that be fun.___Dave

[zp4ja]

First off, let me say this in my opinion...

If the knife has been taken apart and entire blade removed, it is in fact "missing". If the tang still exist and I personally don't care if any blade is attached or not via being "snapped" off, that is in fact in my opinion a "broken blade". The blade piece that broke off is missing but the blade is not missing since the tang is in fact part of the blade. GET IT!

Here, please allow the liberty to illustrate for ease of understanding with the attached pic taken right here from the AAPK "Research" section. It clearly illustrates the "components" or "Parts" as it says of what makes up a "Blade", IE: If the tang is in the knife still the blade is not missing whether or not any "part" of "blade" is missing. A broken swedge. edge, spine, shoulder, nail nick, "snapped off at tang" for all I care is in fact a missing piece of a "Blade. If the tang is still there, it has a broken blade, not a missing one...

Another Remington Collector, is the blade snapped or missing? Please provide a pic if you would as to stated condition so that all can see.

Either way on the OP knife, missing (REMOVED FROM KNIFE) or snapped/broken (ONE BLADE PART IS THERE BUT OTHERS MISSING), I stand by what I said as it pertains to any other knife. My opinion!

[just bob]

What does a J blade look like? I see this other post but don't see which blade is the J blade and why?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21549

[edge213]

Not positive, but I think it means a long spey blade.

[zp4ja]

What does a J blade look like? I see this other post but don't see which blade is the J blade and why?

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=21549

Hey Bob.

From Steve Pfeiffer's new book 2nd edition page 39. And this is what is in the book exactly and nothing to do with my opinion although I don't disagree with what has wrote at all. And I quote...

Pattern # Suffix = J
What it denotes = Two Long Blades
Pattern # Example = 6294 J

Verbatim from the book. The "Pattern number example" Steve used is of course the same exact knife posted under discussion here.

Here my opinion, no such thing a "J blade". This would be like saying a 6296X has an X blade. There of course are prefixes or suffixes to CASE model numbers such as RAZ = Razor, SAB = Saber, SH = Sheepfoot, 1/2 = Clip, etc that all pertain to the blade used in the knife.
Do people call them a J blade knife? Absolutely. Is that what the suffix on a CASE 6294J means by definition, absolutely not in my experience, opinion and Steve's book I referenced.
Sarge says "Long Spey Blade" in his book, 7th edition which is true on some knives but not this one, the 6294J. Even if it has a spey and a J in model number does not mean it a J blade cause there is no such animal that I am aware of.

My point is the J has nothing to do with blade type.

think about this all, the 6294J (knife under discussion) DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A SPEY BLADE IN IT! Missing, broken, mangled or otherwise. Could be wrong but that is what the books say and Steve and Sarge book contain 3 separate pictures and everyone of them shows a Spear blade and a Clip Blade. No spey blade to be found!

I own a 6294J myself. In this post, I specifically ask is what I think is a reprofiled spear blade started life as a Spear. Read the post and reply from someone that I highly respect regarding CASE knowledge.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ilit=6294J

Look at this beautiful example that Larry posted just a couple weeks ago with what looks to me as unsharpened and unused blades. Looks like a Spear and Clip blade combination yet again!

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 4J#p484954

Someone please point me specifically to a 6294J and show me it came with a spey blade as original from factory. Then I will retract all I just said in regards to the CASE 6294J pattern. That pattern and that pattern only.

[MrBlister]

Here's a 6347 "J" blade...
so in this case i guess "J" signals a BIG OLE LONG SPEY..

I'm sure this settles the matter **smiles


HET YAWLL

[zp4ja]

Here's a 6347 "J" blade...
so in this case i guess "J" signals a BIG OLE LONG SPEY..

I'm sure this settles the matter **smiles


HET YAWLL

Actually that is incorrect in my opinion, Please provide the data (you or someone that reads this where anywhere on the World Wide Web or in a known knife reference book that any produced CASE 6294J was ever made with a spey blade. CASE was full of exceptions, bad record keeping, so exception occur once in a while. Just never seen a 6294J personally or in reference material, with anything other that 2 long blades, namely Clip and a Spear. Guessing settles nothing definitively as per my quote of your reply in big red font. Please read my reply again, I made no mention of something other than the OP knife model and pattern number which is a CASE 6294J. Additionally does the knife you posted in fact have "2 Long Blades" or not?

So since the knife you posted a picture of has "2 Long Blades" does that not define what Steve's book I referenced states and not a necessarily "J Blade meaning spey blade". I find it interesting that I have never seen a illustration on a "J blade shape", probably because there in fact no such thing,


Answer one question without the smoke and mirrors (in my opinion). Why do all the knives and books I referenced with links, book names, page numbers not show one CASE TESTED 6294J with a spey blade????? J blade does not exist, I personally agree with Steve based on what I have seen. It relates to pattern numbers and two long blades, not a Spey blade in the knife. So what about a CASE 61048 SP? The SP in fact indicates a spey blade as does SAB = Saber, RAZ = razor as I stated in granular detail on my previous post

BTW. another AAPK post link "Hot off the press" on a very fine CASE TESTED 6294J in addition to all the other example I posted. Again two large blade, Clip and Spear with no spey blade to be seen like the last 4 or 5 links I posted and the books I referenced with 3 pics total. So that makes 7 or 8 knives with no spey ever seen on a CASE 6294J and it is kind of a rare knife.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 57#p488057

Sorry guys, smoke, mirrors and guesses do not provide definitive proof, in my opinion,Athough CASE has exception and is not always definitive on occasion, we have to trust example we observe, handle see posted, etc on what what made or not. Others opinions may vary, to each his own. Pretty sure I am not violating any forum rules with that statement.

Jerry

[MrBlister]

see pic of MY J 47 ..
N O W its settled. . .
aaahhhhhhhh put it to rest is best

plse note:: screamin in big red font
settles nuthin .. like this small post do

HET

[Another Knife Collector]

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[just bob]

I appreciate the explanation on the J blade. My book calls the 6294 knife a 4 1/4" equal end jack. My thinking was the J stood for jack knife and not a reference to a blade type. I have no idea how posting a picture of a 6347 is germane to this discussion. That seems to me to be apples and oranges. Many things in these posts I don't understand though.

[Jacknifeben]

Does the double fluted punch blade bother any one?

[1967redrider]

Excellent bone scales!

[Another Knife Collector]

My previous comment has been edited/deleted to give myself a chance to simmer down. Please be civil, we all enjoy these old knives the same, and sometimes I feel what becomes a heated debate online would remain a passing disagreement in real life.

I appreciate all the constructive input and comments on a knife I thought would garner only a little interest. I have gotten a large number of offers to buy the knife as well, I'm not sure what I want to do with it yet, but I will PM everyone who has contacted me in a couple days when I decide.

I will also post an image of the "damage" to the knife, whatever you wish to call it. Thank you.

[rexstubbins]

wow.

to me its just a nice ol knife that i wouldn't mind havin if i found it even though it s missin the blade. lots of history and purty rare.