Guns & Gun Related Stuff

[Paladin]

BTW, not a fan of open carry unless one does not have a permit. If open carry is used (done it many times but usually not in town), I personally strongly suggest a kydex holster with some sort of push button lock/release. Open carry has been legal here for a long time.

On a related note, Concealed or open, pocket, purse or holster, I am strongly suggesting to all friends and family that they carry EVERYWHERE AND EVERY TIME they leave their home. Does you no good if you God forbid you need it and is at home in the safe. My town is for the majority very low crime, but times have changed. Just my opinion.
Regards, Jerry

In my state open carry will require a license, same as concealed carry. Additionally, only leather holsters worn on belt and leather shoulder holsters will be legal. 'Splain that one to me?? I picked up a 357Sig cal for open carry and wow!!,, is it ever a dandy.

Ray

[jerryd6818]

From A. G. Russell, a concealed carry vest.

I have one of these.

They come in different colors, material and prices.

http://russellsformen.com/product/902/w ... page%253A2

Charlie Noyes

Nice vest Charlie. Very cool. I wouldn't mind having one of those even though I don't carry. (71 years and I've never needed one so why bother)

[Colonel26]

BTW, not a fan of open carry unless one does not have a permit. If open carry is used (done it many times but usually not in town), I personally strongly suggest a kydex holster with some sort of push button lock/release. Open carry has been legal here for a long time.

On a related note, Concealed or open, pocket, purse or holster, I am strongly suggesting to all friends and family that they carry EVERYWHERE AND EVERY TIME they leave their home. Does you no good if you God forbid you need it and is at home in the safe. My town is for the majority very low crime, but times have changed. Just my opinion.
Regards, Jerry

In my state open carry will require a license, same as concealed carry. Additionally, only leather holsters worn on belt and leather shoulder holsters will be legal. 'Splain that one to me?? I picked up a 357Sig cal for open carry and wow!!,, is it ever a dandy.

Ray

Kentucky has always been open carry. I never could understand places making you have a license to carry you gun in the open. I was especially amazed to learn how strict Texas is about guns. Must be because y'all are so close to California.

[Paladin]

BTW, not a fan of open carry unless one does not have a permit. If open carry is used (done it many times but usually not in town), I personally strongly suggest a kydex holster with some sort of push button lock/release. Open carry has been legal here for a long time.

On a related note, Concealed or open, pocket, purse or holster, I am strongly suggesting to all friends and family that they carry EVERYWHERE AND EVERY TIME they leave their home. Does you no good if you God forbid you need it and is at home in the safe. My town is for the majority very low crime, but times have changed. Just my opinion.
Regards, Jerry

In my state open carry will require a license, same as concealed carry. Additionally, only leather holsters worn on belt and leather shoulder holsters will be legal. 'Splain that one to me?? I picked up a 357Sig cal for open carry and wow!!,, is it ever a dandy.

Ray

Kentucky has always been open carry. I never could understand places making you have a license to carry you gun in the open. I was especially amazed to learn how strict Texas is about guns. Must be because y'all are so close to California.

Can't really 'splain that either. It took us forever to get concealed carry. I suspect most, or at least many, of our new residents come from California. Austin and Travis county are traditional bastions of liberals and liberal politics.

Ray

[Colonel26]

I've been told that Austin is in no way indicative of the rest of the state.

[carrmillus]

.....there you go, ray, you hit the nail on the head!!!!.......

[Paladin]

I've been told that Austin is in no way indicative of the rest of the state.

True, true. Travis County will almost always go Democrat and the state is overwhelmingly Republican.

Ray

[garddogg56]

Hey guys thanx for the responces In Maine we have allways had open carry now we can carry without a permit (just past)I bought a Smith&Wesson body- guard for me and am thinking a Colt Mustang for my wife..as compaired to my .40 ,9mm and Colt Police positive in a 32-20 the trigger on my Bodyguard was a bitch but 400 rounds later and learning the long heavy pull she's a GREAT shooter and not one FTE or FTF,NOT CRAZY BOUT THE LASER and im going to get new sights day glo.I'll tell ya one thing these .380 have a lot of muzzel lift but controlable and carries well in RFP..Thank you much. Bob

[Just Plain Dave]

I don't have CCW so obviously I won't open carry. But it don't matter because I couldn't afford a gun or the ammo to go in it. For a short time I had a Taurus mini 1911 in .380. It was a jam-omatic!

[RalphAlsip]

As mentioned earlier in the thread, open carry starts here in Texas on January 1. I doubt I will participate in that manner anytime soon. I have heard a point of view expressed that the bad guys would initially target people they know are armed. Another point of view expressed is that noticeably armed folks would be a deterrent to bad guys. Both points of view make sense to me. Until people get used to seeing regular folks carrying guns, I believe there will be some confrontations / arguments that I hope don't escalate out of control and actually cause problems that will setback the right to carry in the long run. I am fine with people openly carrying and being prepared to defend themselves and others. I won't be fine with somebody pulling out their weapon in public and racking the slide or spinning the cylinder (i.e., doing something reckless and stupid). Bronco Billy needs to stay in the movies.

Anyway, what I really am interested to hear about is whether anyone reading might have experience with either of these two 9 mm subcompacts that are more relevant to concealed carry.

http://www.fnhusa.com/products/handguns ... 9-compact/

http://hk-usa.com/hk-models/p30sk/

Thanks for any insight you can share about the pistols.

[Mumbleypeg]

Jerry, of the two you asked about, IMHO the H&K is the better choice. My oldest son has one like it and he likes it a lot. My own preference for concealed carry is the S&W M&P Shield. https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/new-im ... sw-shield/ The fact that it is only .95 inches thick is a big plus, easy to carry. Very surprising how much difference the thinner frame makes in carry comfort, but the trade off is you lose capacity because it's a single stack magazine. There's a lot of good options available so really comes down to personal preference - what you can handle safely, shoot well and trust to go bang every time you pull the trigger. What's good for me may not be worth a hoot for you. Best thing you can do in my opinion is get to a range that has a wide variety of rentals, and try several before you buy one.

Ken

[garddogg56]

Jerry a BIG plus one on what Ken said .Go to a range and try what you like.For me I have bony hips,I can't tuck carry so I opt to pocket carry and jacket weather inside pocket carry.all my Carhartts and leather jackets have inner pockets very comfortable.

[royal0014]

For a compact carry, may I suggest the Ruger LC9s.
http://www.thesureshot.biz/product.ruge ... -black-165

I have had mine for a year now, carried ISWB on my right hip. Easily hidden under a t-shirt.
American made, and for the money one of the better small-frame pistols out there.

My .02¢ worth

[RalphAlsip]

Thanks for the excellent advice. I have larger frame HK (USP 40 & 45, VP9) that I enjoy. The USP's, in addition to being large, have controls that are easy to operate (good), but snag easily (bad). The VP9 is sleeker, but still a little on the large side.

Ken, thanks for S&W M&P suggestion. It looks pocketable.

[RalphAlsip]

Thanks Royal. The Ruger is a good suggestion.

[rangerbluedog]

Here are a couple of old British Enfield Rifles, chambered in .303 British.
Top one is a 1942 Maltby No.4 Mk1.

The one on the bottom is a 1917 No.1 Mk3*, made by BSA.
It has several stamps on it that indicate WW1 use by the British and WW2 use by the Australians, a factory refurbishment in 1942, and sold for civilian use in November 1945.

The Maltby has a two-groove barrel and "zamac" buttplate.
The bore on the BSA is a little frosty, but the rifling is deep.

[Miller Bro's]

Those look real clean Blue

[Old Hunter]

Blue, you have some very nice SMLE rifles. I own one, this WW-II Lithgow. My rifle was built in 1943 but appears to be a WW-I rifle? Did the Australian's simply keep building the WW-I version even though the British, Canadians, and Savage, had switched to the upgrade model? Wonder if that had to do with not being able to get the new machinery? At any rate this old Smelly is in pretty good condition and shoots the PPU ammo (and my handloads) well. OH
Ps I have always liked the "bulldog snout" of the early versions.

[rangerbluedog]

That's a beauty OH!
Yep, they continued to make the No1s in Lithgow and Ishapore. (up until the 50s, IIRC)
Not sure why, but they are nice old rifles indeed. Unsporterized versions are beginning to get scarce.
(edit) I did some research, and I think it all boiled down to a tooling issue. Lithgow simply never tooled up to make the No 4.

[jerryd6818]

That's a beauty OH!
Yep, they continued to make the No1s in Lithgow and Ishapore. (up until the 50s, IIRC)
Not sure why, but they are nice old rifles indeed. Unsporterized versions are beginning to get scarce.

Blue, are you part of the Clan MacRae?

[rangerbluedog]

That's a beauty OH!
Yep, they continued to make the No1s in Lithgow and Ishapore. (up until the 50s, IIRC)
Not sure why, but they are nice old rifles indeed. Unsporterized versions are beginning to get scarce.

Blue, are you part of the Clan MacRae?

Indeed Sir, troublemakers each and every one.
My branch left Kintail some time around 1600. They went to Northern Ireland before the plantation.
They were there about 100 years (dropping the "Mac") before relocating to Virginia around 1720.
In Ireland they were pinched between the extremists. They were Presbyterians: PROTESTANTS, yet in favor of an independent Irish Republic.
In America they followed the Great Wagon Road from Virginia, down to North Carolina, and after the American Revolution, splitting up between Tennessee and Georgia, and from there throughout the U.S.
Now we are like an STD, you can't get rid of us.

One of my great joys was to visit Scotland and Ireland last year on vacation. We visited Eilean Donan castle, which actually belonged to clan McKenzie, but clan MacRae acted as the constabulary. The original castle was destroyed by the British hundreds of years ago, but John MacRae rebuilt it back in the early 1900s. Eilean Donan castle is now the most photographed castle in Scotland.

[carrmillus]

......great picture, Scotland and Ireland are 2 of the places I always wanted to go, all my ancestors came from cork county, Ireland.....I sailed past it twice.....close as I ever got!!!........... .............

[rangerbluedog]

I have a friend whose family was from County Cork. Cork was a hotbed of IRA activity during the Irish struggle.
While researching the Irish Civil War I learned that pistols were the most commonly used weapons, due to the nature of the conflict. One popular weapon was the Mauser C96 pistol like the one in the attached picture.
The Irish called this gun "Peter the Painter", because of its use by a gangster in East London..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Painter

[jerryd6818]

Because of your family's sojourn in Ireland, wouldn't they call you Scotch-Irish?

There's some speculation that our roots are Scotch-Irish but there's no proof. Our last name could link to County Down in Ireland or Downing street in London. Back in the 60's, my great uncle traced the family tree. He got back as far as the mid 1700's in the Anderson area of South Carolina but never made it across the pond so

Thanks for sharing your family tree. That stuff fascinates me.

[rangerbluedog]

Because of your family's sojourn in Ireland, wouldn't they call you Scotch-Irish?

There's some speculation that our roots are Scotch-Irish but there's no proof. Our last name could link to County Down in Ireland or Downing street in London. Back in the 60's, my great uncle traced the family tree. He got back as far as the mid 1700's in the Anderson area of South Carolina but never made it across the pond so

Thanks for sharing your family tree. That stuff fascinates me.

Yep. I've always thought your family name was Irish. Wow! In the mid 1700s this would have been called the Pendleton district! It gets difficult to find info that far back - especially if you are of the Scots-Irish pedigree.
The troublemaking Irish were always lured to the frontier with the promise of free land. They were used as a buffer between the native population and the more genteel folk on the coast.

If you want to PM me a name of your Anderson area ancestor, I can poke around some of the local archives for you.