Antique Quill Knives

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knife7knut wrote:The bottom one is a unique item in that it is a combination ink eraser and quill knife used to actually make quills.It works by taking the quill and pushing the point into the groove along both edges where it contacts the pointed edge of the blade;splitting the tip to allow ink to flow.The opposite end is a hard rubber ink eraser.
Ray, it`s not a quill knife. It is actually an envelope opener and a ink/lead eraser combo ::nod::

Check it out: http://www.google.com/patents/US96845?p ... 45&f=false


I love patented old knives and just about anything unusual that is patented ::tu:: :D
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Miller Bro`s wrote:
Ray, it`s not a quill knife. It is actually an envelope opener and a ink/lead eraser combo ::nod::

Check it out: http://www.google.com/patents/US96845?p ... 45&f=false


I love patented old knives and just about anything unusual that is patented ::tu:: :D
Dimitri:
Thank you for clarifying that and showing the link.I was going by what I was told when it was purchased and it seemed to make sense.I actually made a couple of quill pens using that method and they worked quite well.
Here are the two others I mentioned before.The tortoise shell handled one(might be clear horn)is marked V crown R Toothill and the pearl one is marked either Voule or Youle;it;s hard to tell.
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This thread has made me look twice at a little pearl, no name knife that was part of a small collection I bought a while ago off a lady who said it was her grandfather's - who always carried a knife and the '20s. She showed me pictures of the general store he ran, with a horse hitched in front of it. Not the greatest pictures, but could this be an old quill knife? cheers
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Lawrence: It could possibly be a quill knife.If you look at the last picture I posted showing the bottom views of the knives notice how the back spring wraps around and dtoward the point of the blade.This is a characteristic of a quill knife.If you can post that view of your knife we can tell for sure.
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knife7knut wrote:Lawrence: It could possibly be a quill knife.If you look at the last picture I posted showing the bottom views of the knives notice how the back spring wraps around and dtoward the point of the blade.This is a characteristic of a quill knife.If you can post that view of your knife we can tell for sure.
Thanks for the tip K7K...check out the pics. I guess I am the proud owner of a quill knife ::tu:: The small collection I picked up included 3 other small knives...W.H. Morley and Sons, United Cutlery, and a Syracuse Knife Co. so I would suspect that this one was once a decent knife for the collector...too bad their are no markings. cheers
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How about this Freidmann & Lauterjung 8 blade with ivory handles. I have always wanted one of these and it being an F&L makes it really special!!
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Wow! That is fabulous!
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Thanks Kathy, I will bring it to the Queen show so you can check it out
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Great! We will be looking forward to it!
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Mike,

I just wanted to thank you again for letting me see this knife. What a marvel it is!
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I picked this up at the flea market today, the only quill knife I have. It's unmarked but pretty well made with good snap on the blade.
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Nice one Mike, and very old too ::tu::
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Thanks Dimitri! Any idea of its origins or age?
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The steel pins are typical of German construction.

Some English companies used steel pins on nickle bolsters, but usually on work knives that would be used hard, not on a delicate quill knife :wink:
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Thank you Dimitri. ::tu::
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Bringing this thread back to life after almost 2 years....

Recent cool find this week for a very low price - old quill knife from England, no doubt of this - but trying to figure out if it was Sheffield or another city based on tang stamp... tortoise shell scales with a silver band and a grooved bolster (at least I believe that is what it is called.. Maybe one just calls it a decorative bolster?).... the bolster may be gold or perhaps just nickel silver with lots of brass... not sure... Blade has hard snaps both ways and a half stop... Still trying to figure out the tang stamp - so far I know the crown on top indicates that her majesty approved or purchased from this cutlery (sort of like when I purchase fly stuff in London at Farlows on past business trips ;-)) and the shopping bag says "By appointment of the Prince of Wales".. true as Prince Charles shops there I guess - most likely orders online from there LOL!!)

Hope these pics work as I used my iphone... no time at the moment to setup my photo area ;-(( but will soon! I can add more or better pics later... Also one of those knife finds not along my normal collection focus but have a soft spot for "some" old knives that deserve a home and better living conditions than a flea market type store :wink:

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Here is a Jenner & Knewstub c. 1866 - 1889 quill knife with page turner.

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LongBlade wrote:Bringing this thread back to life after almost 2 years....

Still trying to figure out the tang stamp - so far I know the crown on top indicates that her majesty approved or purchased from this cutlery (sort of like when I purchase fly stuff in London at Farlows on past business trips ;-)) and the shopping bag says "By appointment of the Prince of Wales".. true as Prince Charles shops there I guess - most likely orders online from there LOL!!)

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I think your Tang stamp is G CROWN R for Rodgers (George Sheffield) Cutlers to His Majesty c. 1820 -1830.

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btrwtr wrote:Here is a Jenner & Knewstub c. 1866 - 1889 quill knife with page turner.

Wayne

Wayne, that thing is gorgeous.
Was it also used to crease paper to make the early envelope?
Where was it made?
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Nice quill knife Wayne - that is in great shape and sports a lovely design - that pearl handle shines :D .. How long is it?? Thanks for the info on the quill knife I posted as well!! That gives me a place for some background reading... Can you recommend any good books I should look for to get me up to speed on Sheffield knives?? Tweedsdale?? The majority of my knifes are from New England & especially CT but I have a soft spot for Sheffield knives for multiple reasons including the important role and influence that area had on knife makers here, and just knife history in general...

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Here is a little Sheffield set I picked up not long ago. In the picture with the blades open the instrument on the bottom and the 2 knives on the top are marked Wells Strand, At one time I had a 5 blade beauty marked BB Wells Strand and this might be the same maker. Not sure what the set was made for so if anyone has a clue let me know. I believe they are all handled in bone. No markings on the other 2 knives or the needle, awl and corkscrew.
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galvanic1882 wrote:Here is a little Sheffield set I picked up not long ago. In the picture with the blades open the instrument on the bottom and the 2 knives on the top are marked Wells Strand, At one time I had a 5 blade beauty marked BB Wells Strand and this might be the same maker. Not sure what the set was made for so if anyone has a clue let me know. I believe they are all handled in bone. No markings on the other 2 knives or the needle, awl and corkscrew.
I think the set may be a manicure set.The bottom piece appears to be a nail file/fingernail cleaner/cuticle pusher.One of the knives looks like a regular pen knife.The other appears to be a quill knife. The cork screw was used to open perfume bottles that came with corks(before screw-on caps). The tapered metal piece with the ball end looks like a handle for the corkscrew. The top item looks like a crochet hook.I have a fixed blade set that has similar items.
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Cool old sets!!! I'm curious as to the age of these for a few reasons... One is the scissors included in your set knife7knut - are they pre-1900?? I have been collecting old fly tying tools from the 1800s for some time now... Of course in the 1800s most fly tyers probably took the sewing scissors from their wives ::nod:: as tools were not sold for fly tying per se and made by blacksmiths etc for multiple purposes.. The size of scissor for fly tying are generally small and sewing scissors fit the bill. I should probably post some of these old tools sometime as I think a few folks may enjoy them. For example I have a really old pair of scissors that were forged from iron and had a makers stamp of symbols on the handles. Be glad to throw them up here if anyone would like (but maybe it is not exactly fitting for a quill knife thread) or maybe I should throw them up on the General Discussion board - at least the scissors are considered cutlery and are pretty old and cool 8) !!!
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LongBlade wrote:Cool old sets!!! I'm curious as to the age of these for a few reasons... One is the scissors included in your set knife7knut - are they pre-1900?? I have been collecting old fly tying tools from the 1800s for some time now... Of course in the 1800s most fly tyers probably took the sewing scissors from their wives ::nod:: as tools were not sold for fly tying per se and made by blacksmiths etc for multiple purposes.. The size of scissor for fly tying are generally small and sewing scissors fit the bill. I should probably post some of these old tools sometime as I think a few folks may enjoy them. For example I have a really old pair of scissors that were forged from iron and had a makers stamp of symbols on the handles. Be glad to throw them up here if anyone would like (but maybe it is not exactly fitting for a quill knife thread) or maybe I should throw them up on the General Discussion board - at least the scissors are considered cutlery and are pretty old and cool 8) !!!
The J.A.Henckels set probably dates no earlier than 1930. The scissors in the set are actually buttonhole scissors. Not sure exactly how they work but the screw on the side is a limit screw so they won't cut in too far. The other set is probably from around 1900. Would love to see the scissors;they are still "edged tools"
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Thanks K7Knut!! Well here are the forged scissors - estimated +/- 1860-1880... They originated from an auction in the mid-west somewhere but other than that I don't know much about them. You can see where the maker put his stamp on the upper handle in last photo.. For me they were perfect as these would well represent what a fly tier would have used in the late 1800s... and quite frankly I still like scissors with lots of room for my fingers when tying flies... :D ... There is just abit of wobble in the cutting shears but still cut and have/will not sharpen them... Hope these photos work ok or will get some better pics to post but you can click and enlarge all photos including last photo with stamp to see them better...
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