Show Us Your Camillus Knives!

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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Couple of new to me Barlow's, a 51 and a 11. The 11 Tip Top is in wonderful condition.
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....johnr, great find!!!.......the long line stamp on the barlow is 1960-1976, the "no line" stamp on the tip top is 1946-1956!!....first one of those I have seen!!!............... ::tu:: ::tu:: .................
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Thanks Carrmillus, the Tip Top is a short line, just can't see it in my picture.
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..another 78 yr. old eyeball malfunction!!!!....................... ::facepalm:: ..................
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I recently purchased Camillus 4 line tang stamp knife. The model number is absent. Closed length 3.5"
I need help with identification and dating.
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.........vit, is the secondary blade 4 line stamped also????..........
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Vit_213 wrote:I recently purchased Camillus 4 line tang stamp knife. The model number is absent. Closed length 3.5"
I need help with identification and dating.
Very nice example. It is my opinion that because of the handles and the tang stamp your knife is pre-WWII, probably from the 1930's. As far as I know Camillus did not use pattern numbers prior to 1946 but I would guess that since yours is 3½" closed, it is predecessor to the #12. Triangles punched into the liners holding the handles on?????
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I have probably 50 - 60 pre-war Camillus knives in my collection and of those, maybe 4 have pattern numbers stamped.

The knife posted appears to actually be a 16 (or, as stated, it's unknown pre-war successor) pattern knife (an equal end jack with a clip blade) Jerry's knife is a 12 pattern, quite similar, however, with a slight taper from one end to the other. Levine calls this pattern a regular jack, however, I often hear people call it a swell end jack.

As stated above it dates to pre WWII to just after (1946) according to Goins'.

Nice knife. ::tu::
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At 3-5/8" closed the #16 is 1/8" longer than the #12. Measuring error by the OP?? Mark is most likely correct.
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carrmillus wrote:.........vit, is the secondary blade 4 line stamped also????..........
No, only main blade.
jerryd6818 wrote:Triangles punched into the liners holding the handles on?????
No.
jerryd6818 wrote:Measuring error by the OP?
What it means OP?
Closed length 89,5 mm = 3.52"

Pay attention - the handle is not bone stag.
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Vit_213 wrote:
carrmillus wrote:.........vit, is the secondary blade 4 line stamped also????..........
No, only main blade.
jerryd6818 wrote:Triangles punched into the liners holding the handles on?????
No.
jerryd6818 wrote:Measuring error by the OP?
What it means OP?
Closed length 89,5 mm = 3.52"

Pay attention - the handle is not bone stag.
Vit, OP means "Original Poster" normally
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.......if the secondary is not 4 line stamped, goin's says it's 1941-1946. if all blades are 4 line stamped it's 1919-1941!!.......... ::tu:: ................
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jerryd6818 wrote:Triangles punched into the liners holding the handles on?????
No.
You know quite a bit about Camillus knives so I'm reasonable sure you know that was the method used for mounting synthetic handles prior to the use of Delron® handles and the post method.
jerryd6818 wrote:Measuring error by the OP?
What it means OP?
Closed length 89,5 mm = 3.52"
Yes, as "Producer" said, Original Post (the first post in the thread).
I said that because knives are difficult to measure and it's very easy to make an error of 1/8". So much so that I purchased a cheap Chinese set of plastic calipers for the purpose.


Pay attention - the handle is not bone stag.
I never suggested that the handles are bone stag nor did I see anyone else suggest that. When I said " It is my opinion that because of the handles", I should have inserted the word synthetic in front of handles because that is what I meant.
Vit, I have/had no intention of nor wish to insult you. Your grasp of the English language has always impressed me as to how good it is, however there are those rare times the language barrier can raise it's ugly head and misunderstandings will occur.
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Jerry,

Just for info, all of the Camillus made knives I have that have pattern numbers stamped (pre-WWII) are four digit numbers, so the OP knife would have had a four digit number probably. After the war, Camillus seems to have gone to a maximum of three digits without trying to specify the number of blades, handle materials, etc.

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Good to know Mark. Good information.
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Jerry,
Unfortunately, the language barrier is a big problem for me. The most difficult for me are the words and phrases with which can not cope Google and other translators (specific terms, slang, abbreviations and misspelled words). Also for me can be very difficult to properly express my thoughts in English ::undecided:: .
Besides the language barrier exists also the metric barrier :| .
For the measurements I use the old Soviet steel caliper with an accuracy of 0.1 mm (~1/256") ::tu:: and I trust him more than the Chinese plastic :mrgreen: . So 1/8" is not a problem for me.
The method of attaching the handle is difficult to determine, since the knife has a mid liner and the distance between them is very small. However, I think there is really a triangular punching.
About bone I wrote not to you personally, but because all the pictures had shown just that.

I wrote this message over half an hour. ::doh:: I hope that everything will be clear.
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Вы говорите, что Вы используете онлайн-переводчики, чтобы сделать все ваши посты?
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jerryd6818 wrote:Вы говорите, что Вы используете онлайн-переводчики, чтобы сделать все ваши посты?
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Да :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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........you 2 guys are going to have to start speaking "huhmericun", us 78 yr. olds have enough trouble speaking as it is!!!!!................ ::tu:: ....................................
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::rotflol:: ::clapping:: ::not_worthy::

Это забавно. Это работает хорошо у Вас. Как переводы с английского на русский выходят со вашей стороны? Они передают мои мысли, или действительно ли они очень трудны понять то, что я пробую сказать?
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Simple phrases Google translate well. But, unfortunately, often the result is a complete nonsense.
To test you can translate the phrase back and see the results.
I try to write very simple phrases, but often I do not like the result, then I change the words or entire phrase.

By the way, here http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... g-Camillus I gave a small lesson of Russian to Phil Gibbs after which he changed his signature :mrgreen: .
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Vit,
I enjoy seeing your knives and posts.
Your enthusiasm for your hobby comes through no matter what the language.
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Thank you, Harold.

Jerry, you can check your knowledge of the Russian language in my Russian site - http://vit213.narod.ru :mrgreen:
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Vit, I know a few words and phrases in French, Spanish and German (very few) but my knowledge of the Russian language is limited to "nyet" (het) and sometimes "do svidania".


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Ok, Jerry! I will add one more Russian word to you - "nozh" (knife) :mrgreen:
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