Have I Dated this Knife Correctly?

The W.R. Case & Sons Cutlery Company has a very rich history that began in 1889 when William Russell (“W.R.”), Jean, John, and Andrew Case began fashioning their knives and selling them along a wagon trail in upstate New York. The company has produced countless treasures and it continues to do so as one of the most collected brands in the world.
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Have I Dated this Knife Correctly?

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I'm relatively new and I want to make sure I actually understand the Case dot system for dating. I believe the knife below is from 1999. My logic is as follows:

It has one dot. The dot is not below the USA so it's not from the 1970s. The dot is not above the USA so it is not from the 1980s. The dot is off to the side of the USA so it must be from when they returned to the dot system in 1993, and since this has one dot it must be a 1999. Have I got it right? Thanks,

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I think that might be an 89 with those lightning "S"'s. ::hmm:: Is it a Mako, Hammerhead or Sharkstooth?
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I will have to agree with redrider, but for another reason. The knives made in the 93-99 era have long tail "C's". The "C" in your picture is a little bit blurry, but it appears that it may be a "Square C" which was used 1980-89.
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Dennis is correct. It is a 1999. The "floating dot" stamp. Used 1997-1999.
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1989.

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It is 1999. Look at Steve Pfeiffer's book on page 17. Look at the tang stamp chart. Bottom row second from the right.
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edge213 wrote:It is 1999. Look at Steve Pfeiffer's book on page 17. Look at the tang stamp chart. Bottom row second from the right.
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Thanks for your help gentlemen! After I posted I found this exact style stamp here:

http://www.wrcase.com/case_college/tang_stamps/

It's the next to the last row of the folding knife stamps, far right image. This image has 3 dots but the caption says this was used 1997 - 1999, so it looks like mine is definitely a 1999.
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This has turned into another learning situation for me. I have the page , page 17 open and it supports the knife as a 1999 but next to it knives of that date also have the long tailed "C". On page 16 it only shows mid-1993 through 1999 with the long tailed "C". All this said, does anyone know what particular knife patterns followed which tang stamp? ::shrug::
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TF, the long tail C is what I was looking at also. Should have looked at Steve's book but didn't have access to it at the time. I carry a card in my wallet (posted a picture of it above) that I picked up at a Case tour event held at one of their largest dealers in this area, so I just looked at it. Obviously it's not complete! ::facepalm:: Maybe Steve or some other expert on these things will see this and enlighten us as to what knives this " floating dots " date code stamp was used on. ::shrug::

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1999' knife. Floating dots stamp. Not sure what patterns used on but it appears used on lockbacks.

The floating dots stamp was used on first run 1997' Copperlocks. Speaking ONLY to the 97' Copperlocks, CASE touted this as a "factory error" and they are considered somewhat scarce. I do not think this extends to other patterns other than the Copperlock.

Double click the pics and you can see the floating dots versus the other production run.

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Its actually a good question. The "floating dots" stamp was an odd duck that was used as far as I know only on single blade lockbacks.

The 1989 stamp would have been similar except that the pattern number would be on the back tang not part of the tang stamp, and the tang stamp would be CASE XX over SS (with one dot) over USA. All lightning bolt S's.
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Sorry......I have to throw this out there - Did you ask the parents properly? :roll: ::paranoid::
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TripleF wrote:Sorry......I have to throw this out there - Did you ask the parents properly? :roll: ::paranoid::
::rotflol:: ::clapping:: ::clapping:: ::tu:: Awwww, Scott - you're so old fashioned.

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TripleF wrote:Sorry......I have to throw this out there - Did you ask the parents properly? :roll: ::paranoid::

::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: ::rotflol:: !!!
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