Wharncliffe Knives

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 6:34 pm

Recent postings led me to research wharncliffe blades/knives. Here is a site that anyone with interest in this knife must visit.

http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/rod/knives/wh ... index.html

Enjoy

s-k

ButchTN · Post by **ButchTN** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 8:50 pm

Hi s-k. Thanks for posting that link it was a very informative site. One of my favorite parts about collecting knives is reading about the history of them.

Butch

Adam in NYC · Post by **Adam in NYC** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:48 am

Thks, that's a great read.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:01 pm

I like the Wharncliffe blade shape.
I know it can also refer to the shape of the frame as well, but I must say, I really like a slightly thinner, very pointy (

) modified Wharncliffe blade for it's overall utility. In fact, this knife below, is probably the knife I carry most often.

Bill

EDITED:
For clarity of thought.

JOE62 · Post by **JOE62** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:33 pm

Nice looking knife there El Lobo. I can't see the stamp that will, what brand is it?

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:34 pm

Yes great looking knife. That is the offspring of a wharncliffe and sheepsfoot. I love the handle.

s-k

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:14 pm

Thanks gents...

That knife was made for me by knifemaker Todd Davison, who sometimes checks in here. I told him I wanted a pointy, pointee, point, on a thin Wharncliffe blade...

...I hope Lord, nee Baron, Wharncliffe would approve. I sure find it useful.

Not trying to hijack your good thread S/K.

Bill

tank · Post by **tank** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:36 pm

Outstanding read, I enjoyed it so well I ordered one

Edgewise · Post by **Edgewise** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:31 pm

smiling-knife wrote:Recent postings led me to research wharncliffe blades/knives. Here is a site that anyone with interest in this knife must visit.

http://www.rod-neep.co.uk/rod/knives/wh ... index.html

Enjoy s-k

Well, Edgewise-come-lately just had a look at your link, S-K, and decided that I must have one of those strong, thick-bladed Wharncliffes like they made back then.
It's strange how a little history can get you all fired up.

Are there any quality Wharncliffes in production now that anyone would care to recommend?
Meanwhile I'll be scrutinising the Net myself, but I need you guys to point me in the right direction.
I don't suppose they make them thick like they used to?
Thanks for the link S-K.

Which one did you order,Tank, and were you pleased with it?

Hope you all don't mind me digging this up again.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:07 am

here's a dogleg with wharnie blade by case. they call it a seahorse whittler. but for the steel(stainless) it would be perfect(for a newer knife)

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:09 am

The Bulldog series, of three different sizes, all have thick spines. I'm sure some of the Bulldog guys can show you more definitive pictures. I would want to handle one first before I bought, and try to get a blade that isn't stainless (Surgical Instr.), but carbon steel.

Only my opinion.

Bill

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:19 am

Here a set of 6 Carbon Steel Prototype Bulldog 3 1/8 inch Seductress Warncliffe Whittlers. As far as I know this is the only prototype set made in carbon steel and has the COA's as well as the shipping invoice.

Edgewise · Post by **Edgewise** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 1:45 am

Thanks guys. You always come through.
Now I have some good leads to check out, because those pictures you posted sure look like the real thing.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:00 am

this is one of my favorite case(new) knives. 2004 yeller 31549w l cv. its got a thin chrome vanadium wharnie that sharpens well and will shave very thin strips of wood. and it's a locker. i think it looks elegant.

stancaiman · Post by **stancaiman** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:00 am

very interresting link

one of my warncliff (liner lock, ATS34 blade, Fiber Carbon Bolster, Cocobolo handles), not in the same style like yours.

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:23 am

Nice to see your Wharncliffe knives everyone

Great looking knife Stan. Who is the maker of that one? Thanks

s-k

stancaiman · Post by **stancaiman** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:49 am

Allen Elishewitz

this model is a Cortex (around 2000). I forgot to fill "Fill Comment" sorry

http://www.elishewitzknives.com/

redferd · Post by **redferd** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:59 pm

Nice. I like the wharncliffe blade for carving. Works great.

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 3:58 pm

I favor the Warncliffe blade for many things. I've started to like the trappers from Case that have one clip and one Warncliffe blade instead of a spey. Warncliffe trappers, still see a few at Sooner State Knives. They are over in the shop, I will dress them up so to speak after I get this sling off my arm

and caught up, I'm so far behind.

Well here are a couple more Bulldogs.

The real story on the SFO Manchu knife, 1 of 25.

A letter from the man who ordered these knives:
This is a Bulldog 4 1/8 Thor model that was supposed to get a special reverse frosted etch, the Manchu etch. The factory screwed up the order and etched the backs as shown. These 25 knives were returned to Jim Parker and the reverse etch knives were made. Apparently Mr. Parker kept the incorrect knives as his own and this one has his initials on it. Once the knives were returned Mr. Parker was free to do with the rejects as he wished. The man who ordered these knives served in the 9th Infantry Regiment in Vietnam, Mr. Parker did not. The 9th Infantry Regiment (Manchu’s) is a highly decorated and proud Regiment that served the United States since 1855.

Willy was upset that his old knives were being sold as Jim Parker's knives, especially this one with Jim Parker's initials on it, so, I bought it and kept it. If he wants it, it's here to buy/trade. I think that they were found until after Jim died and they were Parker's at that time to disposed of as they saw fit.

These are very sharp knives. After cleaning several hundred knives without incedent, I managed to cut my fingers 3 times on the little Seductress models.

jfarmer · Post by **jfarmer** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:33 pm

Nice Bulldogs Hukk.
I forgot that I had this nice little Robeson Half-Whittler with a Wharncliffe blade.

James

jfarmer · Post by **jfarmer** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:35 pm

And A nice Schatt & Morgan Whittler.

James

Edgewise · Post by **Edgewise** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:29 pm

El Lobo wrote:The Bulldog series, of three different sizes, all have thick spines...try to get a blade that isn't stainless (Surgical Instr.), but carbon steel.

Only my opinion.

Bill

Nevertheless, it's an opinion which obviously carries some weight because I just ordered a 4 1/8" carbon Bulldog Wharncliffe Whittler in stag from Collector Knives. It looks just like the one in your picture.
It was listed as 5th gen. what year does that make it?

Thanks for all the tips guys.
S-K, your original post seems to have turned up quite a thread.

BTW, I finally figured out from Hukk's pictures why some bulldogs came to be called seductress.

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:44 pm

Edgewise wrote:
El Lobo wrote:The Bulldog series, of three different sizes, all have thick spines...try to get a blade that isn't stainless (Surgical Instr.), but carbon steel.

Only my opinion.

Bill
Nevertheless, it's an opinion which obviously carries some weight because I just ordered a 4 1/8" carbon Bulldog Wharncliffe Whittler in stag from Collector Knives. It looks just like the one in your picture.
It was listed as 5th gen. what year does that make it?

Thanks for all the tips guys.
S-K, your original post seems to have turned up quite a thread.

BTW, I finally figured out from Hukk's pictures why some bulldogs came to be called seductress.

5th generation started in 2000. The year 2000 started with a standing dog tang stamp with the year 2000. They went to the double dog head stamp with no year. The 4 1/8 inch Bulldog Wharncliffe Whittler (Thor model) was made around 2003. Some say we went into the 6th generation in 2004, the Bulldog Brand Knife celebrated it's 25th anniversary and they went back to the 2 fighting dogs tang stamp that is used today and was the original tang stamp.
I have 9 or 10 Thor and Viking models at the shop for future projects and they are all carbon steel as are the knives I posted. I had the opposite "problem", I've only seen 1 or 2 knives that weren't carbon steel and that's all I have.

Great looking knives there James, I really like the 3 blade.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:46 pm

I'm sure Mike will take care of you.
Let us know how you like it when you've got it in hand.

Bill

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:34 pm

Yes, Mike is a good guy to work with and I have a few transactions with him, always Bulldog knives, of course. I see he has a stainless in gold lip pearl, 4 1/8 inch Thor model, at $74.00 that is a very reasonable price.
That also would have been made around 2003.

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