Iroquois and Seneca Knives

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:52 pm

That clip blade with the nick out on the end is a common Utica trait. I have a cattle knife like that.

I am still trying to find out more about the relationship of Utica Cutlery Co and these two brands, Iroquois and Seneca. It appears that they started them up during the depression to sell cheaper knives, and then shut them down in WWII, but I don't know that for a fact.

There's not much information about it on the web.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:23 am

More cheap ones from the Ebay archives...

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:09 am

Here's another mixed lot. One is an Iroquois. Another is a Miller Bros Cut Co.

The seller doesn't bother identifying which is which. Says they're all "for repair".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-VINTAGE-MIL ... 4ac7db592a

TripleF · Post by **TripleF** » Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:25 am

Here's a Seneca Cutlery scout knife

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Thu Aug 08, 2013 11:00 pm

That's a nice Seneca. I'm assuming that's the deep grooved black composition handles like Utica used. Very shiny, glassy and with deep-veined stag-like grooves. Interesting stuff. I like the can-opener, too.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:07 am

Another cheap Seneca - lousy pics, though.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SENECA- ... 4178099da5

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:14 am

And a pretty Iroquois -

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Bakelit ... 58a6250c5d

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:48 am

Well. I bought that Seneca with the lousy pictures. Took a chance for $15. It's actually better than I expected. Beautiful gold and black striped celluloid. Used but not abused. A little stiff, but it snaps nice on half stops, typical Utica nick out on the end of the master. The stamps a little messed up though. Looks like a "32" below the Utica, NY.

All in all, not a bad deal. I was pretty sure it was better than the seller's pictures showed.

Here's mine:

PigSticker · Post by **PigSticker** » Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:19 am

That's a nice survivor--

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 02, 2013 4:47 am

Here's an Iroquois four blade bone senator - tip bolsters.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-VINTAGE-c-1 ... 58a70210e9

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:22 am

Another bone Iroquois - Daddy Barlow with a folding guard. Went for 54 plus 5 ship.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Iroquoi ... 7675.l2557

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sun Nov 03, 2013 2:28 am

Bone Moose - $30 + $6 ship.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-IROQUOI ... 7675.l2557

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:57 am

Here's that rare snakeskin celluloid again. This time on a Seneca Scout.

philco · Post by **philco** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:30 am

Wonder what those holes in the pile side handle are ?

junebug · Post by **junebug** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:41 am

drag............ya buyin all these ?????????? err just showin they are for sale on ebay????

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:17 am

philco wrote:Wonder what those holes in the pile side handle are ?

Snakebites.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:20 am

junebug wrote:drag............ya buyin all these ?????????? err just showin they are for sale on ebay????

No. I only bought one. But I figured doing a thread about them would be interesting and educational, since nobody ever talks about them and they don't have a subforum for them.

But if it bothers you, I'll stop. I just thought some might find it interesting.

junebug · Post by **junebug** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:40 am

NO NO NO!!! NO BOTHER...LOLOLOLOLOL
just wasn't sure if you were buying/BIDDING on these....or just showing they were for sale???

three pages deep....was gonna say you got the market cornered

i am gonna try a SENECA scout out soon....

the iroquois seem rarer....or atleast alot less get posted on the BAY?????

CARRY ON,MA MAN

junebug · Post by **junebug** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:44 am

OH...AND QUESTION,by chance........do you have pics of the different TANG STAMPS????
or have you seen several diff styles/types?????
seen any that help you date the knives?????
thanks

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:39 am

OK. We can do tang stamps if you didn't get enough on all the links and pics on this thread.

There's not many, since these two brands were only running for about 10 years or so. I think all the Senecas are the same. But there are two different Iroquois stamps. One with the straight line "Made in USA" underneath, and the other, which I think is older, that has the "Iroquois" inside an oval, with "Utica, N.Y." wrapped around underneath. I have not looked them up in Goin's yet. But I'll check the next time I get a chance. Maybe there are more?

Here's the Iroquois in an Oval:

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:45 am

And here's the straight line:

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Sat Nov 23, 2013 5:20 pm

Seems there's at least 3. Notice in the previous example, the big "I" that extends over both lines of the stamp. Sometimes that's on the cheaper cell jobs, sometimes it's this one.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:53 am

Small Seneca Jack 2 & 7/8"

I think this would be called "Marine Pearl" celluloid, sort of a fake abalone.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:32 am

Here's another Iroquois tang stamp that I never saw before. It has "Cut Co." underneath.

Dragunski · Post by **Dragunski** » Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:36 am

Iroquois 2 blade jack - seller says the handles are composition.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Lot-3-Knive ... 23330353a9

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