Price of a Dagger
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Price of a Dagger
I'm writing a story that takes place in the 1890's in the US. A blacksmith's apprentice forges a dagger to sell - nothing fancy, but not half bad. Any idea what the handle would be made of; what would be the price if it were being sold at the local saloon? Here's the description in the story: The dagger turned out to be a half decent piece of work, with a bone handle, a nicely shaped quillion, and a blood groove that ran the right distance so as to not leave any flex in the point. The double edges of the blade were fine honed. It wasn't a dagger that would win any prizes, but it would bring a price that could be nicely split.
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Re: Price of a Dagger
Most likely a local wood, cheap and readily available. Bone or stag could be used if it were available as well.RichardWells wrote:Any idea what the handle would be made of
Seeing it was the blacksmith's apprentice who made the knife and not the more experienced blacksmith, probably around a dollar.RichardWells wrote:what would be the price if it were being sold at the local saloon?
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OMG! You are great. Thank you.
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Re: Price of a Dagger
I am not a collector of daggers, but I do not recall ever seeing a fullered (blood groove)dagger.
Most quillion daggers have a flattened diamond shape blade, which makes it nice and strong against bending to the side when stuck in an opponent. A fuller (blood groove) would make the blade flat and make the blade extremely weak at the fuller. Why would he do that?
The purpose of a fuller is usually to save weight by removing steel, or for a little added strength. The purpose of a fuller (blood groove) is NOT to let blood out or let air back in the body! Those are old wives tales.
To put a fuller on a quillion dagger would probably mean it would bend at the fuller when attempting to stab with the dagger. Even an apprentice would have in his head the geometry of a usable blade and be able to spot the obvious weakness in that design.
I hope I didn't ruin your story, but I perceive the reason for your visit to AAPK is for historical accuracy in your story.
Welcome aboard.
Most quillion daggers have a flattened diamond shape blade, which makes it nice and strong against bending to the side when stuck in an opponent. A fuller (blood groove) would make the blade flat and make the blade extremely weak at the fuller. Why would he do that?
The purpose of a fuller is usually to save weight by removing steel, or for a little added strength. The purpose of a fuller (blood groove) is NOT to let blood out or let air back in the body! Those are old wives tales.
To put a fuller on a quillion dagger would probably mean it would bend at the fuller when attempting to stab with the dagger. Even an apprentice would have in his head the geometry of a usable blade and be able to spot the obvious weakness in that design.
I hope I didn't ruin your story, but I perceive the reason for your visit to AAPK is for historical accuracy in your story.
Welcome aboard.
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Re: Price of a Dagger
orvet wrote:I am not a collector of daggers, but I do not recall ever seeing a fullered (blood groove)dagger.![]()
Most quillion daggers have a flattened diamond shape blade, which makes it nice and strong against bending to the side when stuck in an opponent. A fuller (blood groove) would make the blade flat and make the blade extremely weak at the fuller. Why would he do that?![]()
The purpose of a fuller is usually to save weight by removing steel, or for a little added strength. The purpose of a fuller (blood groove) is NOT to let blood out or let air back in the body! Those are old wives tales.
To put a fuller on a quillion dagger would probably mean it would bend at the fuller when attempting to stab with the dagger. Even an apprentice would have in his head the geometry of a usable blade and be able to spot the obvious weakness in that design.
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