M.D. - U.S.N Scout Style Knife

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:11 pm

I just found this one at the flea market. It's in good shape all the way around other than wear on the main blade. Four line tang stamp. Is this WWII issue?

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:13 pm

Steel pins. Steel liners. That shield. Yep

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:25 pm

Nice knife Mike

Post a picture of it in this thread

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 35&t=24625

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:55 pm

dog -- Take a look at the second knife in Dimitri's second post in that thread.

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:59 pm

Thank you Dimitri, I just posted it there. It must be his long lost brudda Jerry...

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 2:59 pm

........mike, I think the "md-usn" shield is one of the rarest. mine is marked "usa", and I think it's the most common. all the ww2 ones had no brass in them. what's up with the bolster pin on the opposite end from the bail???-looks like it has a head on one side and recessed on the other-looks almost like that pin was replaced with a nail??????..................

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Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:24 pm

carrmillus wrote:I think the "md-usn" shield is one of the rarest.

From my experience it is much harder to find one of these than the U.S.A. marked knives.

Someone here posted the total production numbers of these type knives during WWII, and as I recall the M.D. totals were much lower than the rest of them

carrmillus wrote:all the ww2 ones had no brass in them

Some of the very early models had brass, and other valuable war time metals like nickle silver, in fact my M.D. knife has N.S. pins in the steel bolsters, they used up what they could find for material as the government stopped their use of war time materials. So, you will find these utility knives with quite a mix of metals and many variations.

carrmillus wrote:what's up with the bolster pin on the opposite end from the bail???-looks like it has a head on one side and recessed on the other-looks almost like that pin was replaced with a nail??????.

That is exactly what it looks like to me too, someone put a nail in there, I would have one of our knife mechanics put a steel pin back in.

Cutty · Post by **Cutty** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 3:48 pm

Nice find Vikingdog

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:04 pm

carrmillus wrote:........ what's up with the bolster pin on the opposite end from the bail???-looks like it has a head on one side and recessed on the other-looks almost like that pin was replaced with a nail??????.................. ..........................

You're right Tommy and Dimitri. It seemed strange but I didn't think of it as a nail stuck in there. I'd better get it re-pinned.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:16 pm

............mike, that looks like some of the old rogers bone on that knife, like mine, if it is, it's definitely worth repairing!!!......great find, buddy!!!!...................

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carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:24 pm

Miller Bro`s wrote:
carrmillus wrote:I think the "md-usn" shield is one of the rarest.
From my experience it is much harder to find one of these than the U.S.A. marked knives.

Someone here posted the total production numbers of these type knives during WWII, and as I recall the M.D. totals were much lower than the rest of them

carrmillus wrote:all the ww2 ones had no brass in them
Some of the very early models had brass, and other valuable war time metals like nickle silver, in fact my M.D. knife has N.S. pins in the steel bolsters, they used up what they could find for material as the government stopped their use of war time materials. So, you will find these utility knives with quite a mix of metals and many variations.

carrmillus wrote:what's up with the bolster pin on the opposite end from the bail???-looks like it has a head on one side and recessed on the other-looks almost like that pin was replaced with a nail??????.
That is exactly what it looks like to me too, someone put a nail in there, I would have one of our knife mechanics put a steel pin back in.

..........miller, just pulled mine out of the display and looked to be sure.....it does have steel pins and liners....also have an electricians knife from the same era(primary 4 line stamped, same rogers bone), and it also has steel liners and pins..................

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vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:29 pm

carrmillus wrote:............mike, that looks like some of the old rogers bone on that knife, like mine, if it is, it's definitely worth repairing!!!......great find, buddy!!!!................... ..................

Thank you Tommy! I've been doing pretty well at the flea markets this year.

Picked up a 1944 U.S. Military Coleman lantern last week, looks like new, $15. $17 for the M.D. knife today. I also picked up a WWII machine gunners handbook that is way cool. I wait all week for Sunday to hit the flea markets.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 4:54 pm

...........mike, that lantern is outstanding!!!!......that's even older than mine!!!!......mine is mid '50's!!!...............

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ken6 · Post by **ken6** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 8:35 pm

Great find, bet that knife could really tell the stories.

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Sun Jun 09, 2013 10:00 pm

Thank you Cutty and Ken.

It's not every day you pick up a piece of history like that. Hey Tommy, I didn't know you liked Coleman lanterns. Check this one I found from the 30s.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 2:30 pm

......now, that is really awesome!!!!..............

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orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:21 pm

Great knife Mike!

I like the lanterns too.
I grew up without electricity. I did my school work by Coleman lantern or by kerosene lamp.
The Coleman lanterns were much better as they put out a lot more light!

Miller Bro's · Post by **Miller Bro's** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:39 pm

Mike, nice lanterns. I have several of them

I found they can be dated by a stamp on the bottom, not all are like this. I do believe I have a military one in olive drab paint.

Is your military lantern dated?

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:34 pm

Yes it's dated 1944. It says:

U.S.
lantern, gasoline leaded fuel
Coleman
1944

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:36 pm

Cool. Love that kind of stuff. Military. Old. Dated.

vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:44 am

How about this Jerry? Another flea market find, dated 1942. The guy thought it was a manual for machinists.

jerryd6818 · Post by **jerryd6818** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:31 am

That's a hoot. I never thought there was much more to it than setting up your fields of fire, keeping it to short bursts and keeping the barrel cool enough it doesn't start cooking off rounds. Looks like there's more to being a grunt than just lugging that heavy S.O.B. around and hoping you stay alive.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:29 pm

...............damn, I wish I had me a machine gun!!!!!!!!.....................

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vikingdog · Post by **vikingdog** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:37 pm

Me too Tommy, me too.

Of course the mortar would make for a nice afternoon too.

carrmillus · Post by **carrmillus** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:43 pm

.....guess i'll have to be satisfied with my lever action henry .22!!!!!...............

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