Lets see some stag

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:18 am

Nice german eye edgewise, they make a fine knife.

Here are a few more, the last of them....I think. Most are cheaper Japan knives, butthey are stag.

Canal street ring knife:

Silver Stag

Silver stag Jr.

C'mon upnorth I know you're hiding a few more stags somewhere

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:32 am

Nice MM, great pictures..I like the last pic of the small Japanese made knife..

Here are the last of my stag knives..At least until I get a chance to pick up another..

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:36 am

nice ones sunburst, I'd love to have a locking whittler but I think it's out of my leauge $$$ wise.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:28 am

"C'mon upnorth I know you're hiding a few more stags somewhere"
Ya didn't have to go swinging that stick now MM!! It just takes a while! I found these while looking for some elusive Barlows;

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:30 am

upnorth wrote:"C'mon upnorth I know you're hiding a few more stags somewhere"
Ya didn't have to go swinging that stick now MM!! It just takes a while! I found these while looking for some elusive Barlows;

hehe. I figured if I got a club you'd break some more stag out

Those are some beauties.

ea42 · Post by **ea42** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 4:51 am

Charlie, saw those on the barlow board and busted your chops about holding back, but I see all is right now

Thanks MM! By the way , I see you've been holding a few back too, very nice! In fact, the variety of incredible knives posted on this thread is something I've never seen before, even in shows

Eric

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 9:59 pm

Well, I wasn't holding back here, but I just got out my "keeper" Whittlers to clean and oil them, and thought I'd show off these stags from Case. 2 from 1970, and 1 from 1999;

steve · Post by **steve** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:07 pm

those are some great stag knives.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:22 pm

Great stag Steve. U.S.A.s are noted for it!

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:30 pm

7 more; quite a list.
Case from the 2000's, the 1990's, the 1980's.
Then a recent Queen Classic (Ken Daniels),
A mystery Case,
A Schatt, and a rare Tenney, I think the only 3-blade stag he made (I'll have to double check that). Question of the day; What's up with that 5th knife??

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:38 pm

Here's another clue to the first question!
And a second question; What else is "wrong with that previous picture??

needbucks · Post by **needbucks** » Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:44 pm

Here's some of mine.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:38 am

One more stag swell center whittler, courtesy queen cutlery, and MM's refurbishing service. I'm beginning to believe that celluloid is not the only plastic to deteriorate. I've had two so-called Delrin handles go bad. They start to turn white. Anyway, nothing some nice stag, and some good workmanship can't fix. From yuk red plastic to nice natural stag, here it is;

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:37 pm

upnorth wrote:I'm beginning to believe that celluloid is not the only plastic to deteriorate. I've had two so-called Delrin handles go bad. They start to turn white. Anyway, nothing some nice stag, and some good workmanship can't fix. From yuk red plastic to nice natural stag, here it is;

Charlie,
You seem to have observed the same phenomenon I have. I have seen it on Delrin & certain other plastics as well. The first time I observed this was many many years ago when living in an old farm house, on the leeward side of the Coast Range. I had some items stored in a rather damp back closet. It was then that I first observed this.

I think it is a a mold or fungus that grows on the plastic, in the damp climate. What I have observed is that it softens the plastic a bit, but the white stuff, along with some of the Delrin can be removed by scraping with the fingernail.

Is this consistent with what you have observed?
I know that you also live in a rather moist climate.

I think I was able to stop the process by wiping down the plastic with vinegar. But the damage is done to the plastic.
One knife in particular I want to keep was effected by this. It was my grandfather's 34OT. I have been successful in preventing it from returning, (so far), by removing the white stuff & then wiping the knife down with Ren Wax.

Fortunately, this is not a real common phenomenon, but I have seen it on 3 or 4 knives. One was a 152OT that was so badly effected that the Delrin appeared to be blue in the florescent lighting of the pawn shop where I bought it. It wasn't until I looked at it in natural light that I realized that it was the worse case of this "white stuff" that I have seen.

I hope this helps,
Dale

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:43 pm

hey dale, i have seen it before as well. only on schrades though. i thought it was ultraviolet damage.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:00 pm

I have one Old Timer that has ultraviolet damage. It was a display knife in an indoor mall with fluorescent lights. The damage is only on one side, and is a fading of the color, but the Delrin itself is not softened.

The "white stuff" (whatever it is) actually softens the Delrin.

Dale

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:12 pm

what i saw was a whitening of the handle and flaking and brittleness. just flaked and chunks came off leaving a surface that looked like it was eaten by acid kinda.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:58 pm

That seems to be different than what I have observed.
The "white stuff" actually softens the handle and you can scrape it & a bit of the Delrin off with your fingernail, but it isn't brittle.

The only time I have observed what you describe was on celluloid handles. But I believe you, I know you can tell celluloid from Delrin.

I dont have an answer for what you have seen, unless it is extreme ultraviolet damage. Perhaps from a knife left on the dashboard of a work truck for a few years?
I do know that ultraviolet light will damage certain plastics, some worse than others.

Dale

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 5:24 pm

upnorth wrote:Here's another clue to the first question!
And a second question; What else is "wrong with that previous picture??

someone was drunk when the installed the shield on the rehandle?

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:45 pm

Steel backspring pin? Maybe a rehandle or repair, as Kaleb mentioned?

Still, very nice pieces Charlie.

Bill

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 3:44 pm

Here is an old German knife with stag. It is an Overland. They were made for import in Solingen, for a company in LA, CA, about 1951-1953. (see Goins).

Dale

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:53 pm

El Lobo wrote:Steel backspring pin? Maybe a rehandle or repair, as Kaleb mentioned?

Still, very nice pieces Charlie.

Bill

The shield is straighter than it looks. I was drunk when I scanned it

! Actually, the knife won't sit flat, and it is crooked. I've seen quite a few factory knives with slightly crooked shields.
The pin is brass, it's just the light, Bill. It's a rehandle with white-tail antler. The shield reversal is so no-one can claim it to be original.
No-body called that first knife in the row in question!! It's CSB, not stag!! I didn't notice 'till after I submitted the pic

!
Anyway, that's the answer!

Forensic Jim · Post by **Forensic Jim** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:55 pm

Here's a Case Burnt Stag Trapper.

Forensic Jim · Post by **Forensic Jim** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:56 pm

I think that Trapper was burnt a little too much.

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Jun 15, 2007 11:07 pm

Goin' away for the weekend; 30th anniversary!!!
But I couldn't wait to show this stag knife. Case Brothers, Little Valley!
Swayback Harness Jack!! Just came in the mail! Ecstatic is the word!
Stag the old way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!