Lets see some stag

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:27 pm

I don't think I have shown this one lately. Made by Harrison bros & Howson, Cutlers to His Majesty so after 1901 and likely before WWI.

s-k

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:46 pm

that's some yummy looking stag S-K

Thanks Woofer.

How about a little muskrat?

singin46 · Post by **singin46** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:57 pm

Hey Kaleb how bout you just send those to me.

It gets mighty lonesome out here on the road ya know.

Singin46

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:41 am

GEE wizz I found this one and she asked me to show her off.

She is a Winchester Sunfish Elephant Toenail Deer Stag.
This is all I know about her. She was one of my first 15 knives back when I stated collection a year and 1/2 ago...

Any one know why the 45/70...??

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 3:19 pm

JustoldKen asked...
Any one know why the 45/70...??

Most likely to commemerate the Winchester Model 1886 chambered in .45-70.

Bill

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:50 pm

The .45-70 was adopted by the US Military in the early 1870's and is still being used today. Originally it was the 45-70 Govt. for the military. It is the oldest cartridge still in use today, still in use by the military and sporting arms. That is likely the reason for a commemorative knife. It has outlived it's sister cartridges, the 45-90 and the 45-110. The latter cartridge starred with Tom Selleck in Quigley Down Under.
So, the 45-70 has been around for 130 years, by far the longest cartridge still in use. 45 was the caliber, 70 (grains) was the original black powder charge. Sounds big but is pleasent to shoot.

There are also commemorative knives for the Henry repeater, the .270, the Parker shotgun, and many others, all for some reason or another, some just because they were well liked.

Bottom line, the 45-70 has been around for 130 years, by far the longest cartridge still in use. Originally chambered in the 1873 Springfield.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:10 pm

Hey there Hukk my man.....

Mr. Quigley stopped by and left this for you, but it's too heavy to mail, so you'll have to stop by some day.

Bill

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:06 pm

Kool Thanks El Lobo I had no idea so I will show this one.
Hukk your info helps me a lot.

My fire arms knowledge is very limited to my BB gun, 22 Remington and a 12 gage Winchester.
I have a group of old men I eat with. One bought a pelt gun that used gas. We told him to get a pump. He returned it and got a full refund. Then tried to buy a (Cross-man pump BB & Pellets). They told him he would have to wait 7 days to pick it up..???(He did not wait for the first gun). Why is this??? They are not even a FIRE-ARMs. I live in IL.

Winchester 1886 Deluxe Takedown Short Rifle .45 70 s/n 144298 mfg 1907 - 22" extra lightweight round barrel, takedown frame, deluxe 2x checkered pistol grip stock, crescent butt plate, Lyman sights. Barrel and mag retain 60% original blue thinning at the edges and drifting to gray; receiver retains about 20% original blue finish turned a medium thin patina; deluxe burlwood piano-finish checkered stocks are very good+ with sharp checkering and beautiful figuring to the grain; barrel is marked "Nickel Steel", action is crisp, bore is excellent. The name "STUART" is stamped in small block letters directly behind the pistol grip and appears to be of the period, probably the original owner. A very rare deluxe '86 in the desirable .45-70 caliber.

I will have to get this to go with my knife.

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:48 pm

That fine old weapon looks like it would help you take some STAGS (right on topic, huh?

) to make your own handles/covers for your knives.

Bill

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:11 pm

one from the twins

and for those who have never seen a 45-70 cartridge... and a larger .50 sharps.

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:23 am

El Lobo wrote:Hey there Hukk my man.....

Mr. Quigley stopped by and left this for you, but it's too heavy to mail, so you'll have to stop by some day.

Bill

Thanks Bill,
I drooled all over my American Rifleman magazine when I saw they were going to give 1 of Selleck's 45-110 away as first prize. Only 3 made and worth $100,000.00 to 120,000.00 depending on where you get your data from.
I damn near jumped out of my chair and yelled near the end of the movie when I saw those guys toss it on the ground.

Maybe that one was just a prop, sacrilidge (sp

) to toss that on the ground!

The 45-70 is a cartridge full of AMERICAN history!

Hukk · Post by **Hukk** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:33 am

justold52 wrote:Kool Thanks El Lobo I had no idea so I will show this one.
Hukk your info helps me a lot.

My fire arms knowledge is very limited to my BB gun, 22 Remington and a 12 gage Winchester.
I have a group of old men I eat with. One bought a pelt gun that used gas. We told him to get a pump. He returned it and got a full refund. Then tried to buy a (Cross-man pump BB & Pellets). They told him he would have to wait 7 days to pick it up..???(He did not wait for the first gun). Why is this??? They are not even a FIRE-ARMs. I live in IL.

DUMB LAWS!

When I was 15 in 1971, I could not even buy .22 cal shorts or any ammo of any type. BUT, I could legally buy all the cartridges, primers, bullets and GUNPOWDER that I wanted.

At 15 years of age I purchased powder in 5LB cans of Red Dot for shotgun shells, and fast burning powders for pistols as well as GUNPOWDER for any rifle I wanted.

At 15 years of age I handloaded my own ammo for several guns. How laws have changed.

Back to stag, let me see more!

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:51 am

Here is the real deal guys. Dropped between 1875 and 1889. .45/70 for the single shot breechload Springfield Army issue. I hunt artifacts like this all the time. It's a blast and it is part of the USA history.Just a few years post Red River Indian Wars era. Gray Co. Texas. Kelley

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:36 am

Gunsmoke47 wrote:Here is the real deal guys. Dropped between 1875 and 1889. .45/70 for the single shot breechload Springfield Army issue. I hunt artifacts like this all the time. It's a blast and it is part of the USA history.Just a few years post Red River Indian Wars era. Gray Co. Texas. Kelley

Very cool Kelley.....

I hope someday we will return to teaching our young folks about our history.

I'm showing a picture of my Henry, just because it's cool.....OK, and one more Stag folder.....

Bill

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 7:13 pm

Very nice repeater and knife sir wolf!

Wouldn't you love to own an original .44 Henry? I love the old weapons! Henrys, Spencers, Springfields, Sharps.

If I only had more cents than sense!

Kelley

El Lobo · Post by **El Lobo** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:04 pm

Kelley said.....
"If I only had more cents than sense!"

Here is one more. It's the only ring opener I've ever owned. I'm lagging way behind on ring openers and harness jacks.

Oh, and I need to take a picture of the mark side (sorry johnnie!).

Bill

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:22 pm

nice canal street bill. i have one and they make great edc knives. could'nt bear to store it away. the nail file could be used commercially!

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 9:59 pm

A nice little Bulldog Sunfish I recently picked up..

upnorth · Post by **upnorth** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:02 pm

Nice etch burstman! Cool knife!!

Gunsmoke47 · Post by **Gunsmoke47** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:03 pm

Nice stag on that little sunfish Ralph!

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:14 pm

wow, that's some nice stag, lets see what I can dig up from my box of "new ones"

Here's a nice set of stag slabs on a bowie, and a little set of edgemarks in a piggy back sheath.

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:18 pm

wow, that's some nice stag, lets see what I can dig up from my box of "new ones"

Here's a nice set of stag slabs on a bowie, and a little set of edgemarks in a piggy back sheath.

Hey that's no fair MM, you have all the best toys to play with..

singin46 · Post by **singin46** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 10:56 pm

Man, it's like stag parade goin on. You guys are killin with that horn.
Great. C'mon, this is where to send them.....Perry Coleman, Salt Lake City, Utah.

Singin46

Edgewise · Post by **Edgewise** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 11:45 pm

This just arrived.
Impeccable finish and a musical snap rivaled only by my old corn knife.

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Sat Jun 09, 2007 12:03 am

Very nice Edgewise, great looking knife. Eye brand in my opinion is one of the best made knives out of Germany, I have yet to run into a quality issue with their knives...

Sunburst