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Old Hunter wrote:Treefarmer, the sling is a 1” wide, Chicago Screw model, made by Montana Slings. They are terrific slings, the leather is stout (won’t ever break on you) and they have no metal parts to rattle or mar your rifle finish. I have several of them, all my pre-64 Model 70’s and my favorite (M88) wear them. Easy to silently adjust the knot plus they look good on the old classic rifles. If you have the older pre-64 or the early post-64 guns (and some other brands) that had fixed sling swivels you want the Chicago Screw version. For later guns that have the QD studs you want the version with the Uncle Mikes QD swivel sewn into the sling. http://www.montanagunslings.com/

I have a Montana Sling on my Rem 700. I like it a lot....
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Hee hee. I'm getting the impression that you & Steve Lee like guns... ::tu::
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I'm sitting in a hamburger joint sipping a chocolate milkshake watching the Steve Lee song on my iphone and LMAO! Love it (the other folks in here are keeping an eye on me though!)
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Old Hunter wrote:(the other folks in here are keeping an eye on me though!)
As they should. :shock: ::paranoid:: ::paranoid::
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seen this posted on another forum
What if the government required every book to have a serial number?
What if it were a felony for any person to sell a book at a profit without a federal license?
What if anyone (except government agents) who bought a book from a federally-licensed book dealer had to fill out a federal form listing his name, address, and the book's serial number, then wait five days before taking possession?
What if anyone (except government agents) who wanted a book under a certain size had to pay a $200 federal tax, get fingerprinted and photographed, and wait months for government
approval, and the penalty for non-compliance was 10 years in prison and $10,000?
What if it were a felony for anyone (except government agents) to buy or sell books whose pages were made out of anything other than a specific type of paper?
What if some states made it a felony (except for government agents) to buy more than one book a month, and banned outright (except to government agents) books with more than a certain number of pages?
What if it was a common occurrence for government agents to destroy someone's house, seize all his property, and imprison him for suspected violations of these book laws?
What if government agents planted banned books in people's homes and shot the citizens or burned them alive?

You may think this comparison is crazy, and that is your privilege. Like it or not, however, millions of intelligent,
rational people think guns are exactly the same as books.
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Actually, all books already have a serial number. Each book is assigned that number at publication and the records are kept in perpetuity at the Library of Congress.

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The day has barely started and already, I've learned something at AAPK. What a place. Thanks Charlie.
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Jerryd, a great video. I can think of many public figures I would love to send that video to.
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My guns are all newer and you can't even find the oil filter on them ::dang::
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I think they may have been shooting sub-sonics in the .22s. Just a thought. Neat stuff. I'd sure like to try it.
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I have been shooting a lot of clays recently, and the crack in the receiver of my old Remington 58 has been getting a little bigger. I figured it was time to retire her. So I went down to Academy last weekend and picked up her replacement - a new Remington Versa Max Sportsman. The Sportsman is the "no-frills" version. I have shot a friends Versa Max quite a bit, and really liked it....very soft shooting. It will feed 2 3/4, 3, or 3 1/2 shells. I can't wait to test drive it.
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SWEET Unk! Clays are fun. Good call on the retirement of your other shotgun. Coming apart in your face is not fun I am sure. Just curious if you like to hunt migratory or upland birds also in addition to clays?

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Unk -- Your chair looks very similar to mine.
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Hi Jerry #1 - I wasn't too worried about the crack - it is behind the slot where the bolt handle slides back. Remington fixed this problem on the 1100 by milling a long slot in the receiver where the crack appeared, allowing the receiver to flex instead of crack. Of course, I used the crack as an excuse to my wife for needing a new shotgun :mrgreen:

I used to hunt quite of bit of dove and quail as a youth. Quail hunting is my favorite, but the fire ants here in Texas have done a number on the quail population. I don't get out hunting as much as I used to.

I shoot clays at a friends house up in Decatur. He bought a $700 clay flinger, which will throw two at a time and has a wobbler, so they come out a different heights and directions. About once every 2-3 months, he invites us over for shooting, barbecue, and then imbibing of cold beverages (after the shooting, of course). Very good times with old friends.

Jerry #2 - yes, our chairs are similar - but yours is original, and mine is from Sam's Warehouse a few years ago.....and I don't have the Antiques Roadshow dude sitting in mine - lol. I think we had this discussion way back earlier in this thread. :lol: ....as we age, they say the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first is..... :lol:
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Unk wrote: Jerry #2 - I think we had this discussion way back earlier in this thread. :lol: ....as we age, they say the memory is the second thing to go. I forget what the first is..... :lol:
We did what? I'm sorry, could you remind me again who you are?
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My buddy just texted me - invited the gang over to shoot next weekend. So I will get to test the Versa Max out and report back. Will try to take some pics.
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Bret888 wrote: Jerry, those are cool guns, and I hope you report back after a range session. I don't get any gun magazines anymore, and I am sure there have been tests printed, on the defensive buck loads? They say most gunfights are inside of 7yrds, so it should be wicked at those ranges.
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A month later a finally got out to the range. I would say the term "wicked" describes it very well. I shot some 250 grain Long Colt 45 thru it at 21 feet, pretty accurate for only a 2" barrel and having drank too much coffee. .410 #4 pellets with about ~60 pellets was scattered as you can imagine at 21 feet, but hey, a four foot wide dense cloud of #4 could come in handy in certain situations.

This target is a 21 feet. 6 rounds total on this target. Three rounds of .410 000 3 pellet BuckShot at 1300 fps, I counted 12 holes so I think each has 4 pellets. Followed by 3 rounds of PDX1 DEFENDER .410 with three .410 diameter "flat discs" at the tip followed by BBs at 750fps. No strays off the target.

I personally was pretty impressed at 21 feet with mutiple non rifled and flat projectiles flying out of a 2" barrel. Sure looks like it will do the job if called upon to me.

Regards All. Happy Easter! Jerry
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Yesterday's pickup. I did not intend to go looking for a gun but when you are at the hardware store, you have to go by the gun counter and take a look.

My first GLOCK and my first .45, normally go for Sig Sauer on a slide gun.

GLOCK 21 .45 Auto with two 13 round mags. Trigger safety only. Hard case with cleaning brush and rod, speed loader and also a soft case. Of course I had to get the GLOCK rail flashlight to go with it. Ammo shelves are bare so I was pleasantly surprised when the guy says that they have ammo set aside for people who purchase a gun. 100 round limit. I talked him into selling 200 rounds though.

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I hated glocks for the longest time, until I shot one. I was impressed. Not as pretty as a 1911 but it sure does the trick
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I loves my 19 9mm
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You know for the longest time I wanted to hate all Glocks. I mean after all they were not designed by the prophet ( John Moses Browning), and they aren't a revolver. But I held one at a gun show here while back and dang that was a good feeling little gun.

I'd like one of them .45's myself. Good looking gun there Jerry!
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tjmurphy wrote:I loves my 19 9mm
Nice TJ! Really interesting full solid trigger on that one.

By the way Wade, huge fan of my Browning "Gold Hunter" 12 gauge. All I use ffrom quail to ducks, every hunt. I don't own any other Browning guns though.

I agree MM and Colonel, never been drawn to a Glock before nor had any interest in finding out about them or trying one out. Was raised on a steady diet of Colt Revolvers and a few S&W. That's what I know and they are very quality firearms, so I have stuck with those. My Dad was not a fan of semi autos so I have stuck with Sig Sauer as they are top of the line in my opinion.

The Glock just felt right in my hand, balance, weight, etc. Kind of like the feel of a real good knife. All action was as smooth as silk. No staging on the trigger when I dry fired it once. Consistent pull and tension thru the entire pull. It cost me a little over 500 bucks which is half of what a SIG .45 would have cost. The owners I have talked to say the same thing as you Gents said, "never liked them until a buddy let me shoot his". Yes Sir MM, not as pretty as a 1911, but looks simplistic and durable which also can be good looking to me.

I pesonally like the fact that there is no external safety lever. Although working a external safety becomes "muscle memory" to use, none of my revolvers have one, so I like my slide guns the same. The trigger safety ensures if not depressed and the gun is dropped, a round will not fire. If I have my finger in the trigger guard, I am planning on discharging the weapon so I like the tirgger safety concept. My SIG semi autos have no safety either, just a decocking lever from SA to DA with an internal safety if the gun is dropped.

One reason I bought it in addition to liking it alot is the current ammo shortage. Didn't have a .45! Owning ten 9mm pistols does no good if you have no ammo and can only find .40 or .45 Auto.
The S&W Governer I bought can shoot .45 Auto in addition to .45 LC and .410 so just thought it would be good to diversify and also have 2 pistols capable of the same caliber.

I still will probably favor my new SIG SAUER P226 " Navy Seals Issue" 9mm with the anchor etch. Current official side arm of the Navy Seals to my knowledge. These guns are certainly not inexpensive but if these brave soliders trust them enough to carry one for their demanding needs, that's all I need to know.

Will give you a range report (for whatever that is worth) when I take out the .45 Glock. Take care, Jerry
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"Nice TJ! Really interesting full solid trigger on that one."

Hey ZP, not a full solid trigger. It's a trigger block to prevent accidental discharge. Glock does not have an external/manual safety. This is just a safe-guard. It's a friction fit and will jump out with the slightest effort. A lot of people have shot themselves in the leg by accident with a Glock.
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I wouldn't buy a Glock for the first 20 years they were out - thought they were junky. That was until my brother asked me to help him zero a laser to his Glock 23 - I was AMAZED at how accurate it was (I used to compete in the ARNG shooting the M1911A1) - that Glock was awesome. I went right out and bought myself a M23 and it is my primary defense handgun to this day - great handguns. OH
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