Remington knives.

[dewman]

Over the past few months, I've bought several Remington (UMC tang stamp) knives. Everything from the big Cocobola trapper to the Camp knife, the Baby Bullet, a couple of Muskrats (a Bushpilot) a Navigator, a R-1306 Lock back and a few others. I've always looked at the big Cocobola trapper and envisioned how much more attractive it'd look if it were "finished" off....the scales rounded off somewhat, along with the bolsters. I wonder why they never bothered to do this? In my humble opinion, it would make the knive a true joy to hold, rather than the "blocky" feel it has now.

Seeing as how I have three of them....and some wild looking Tigerwood, that might be a great project to have done when my ship comes in. Now, THAT would indeed be a custom looking knife, eh?

Dewman

[longbeachbum]

First, I agree with everything you say.

I also was wondering something about the more recent Camillus made Remington Repros in the classic models like the "Tracker" and "Bush Pilot".

I saw something recently that suggested these were made with 0170-6C steel, which is the Camillus trade name for what Case calls chrome vanadium steel. Does anyone know if this is correct? I always assumed they were made from 440A or some other middling quality stainless. If they are truly 0170-6C, I'm going to start accumulating them.

Thanks all.

Jim

[dewman]

....anything that would resemble a metalurgist, but I know the newer Remington's....the ones with the rimfire cartridge stamped on the tang....definitely seem to be made of a lesser grade of steel than the older, UMC stamped ones. At least that's been my experience when putting an edge on them and using them. The scales on the newer ones are hideously colored. Orange and red? Jeez....who gave the final O.K. to put those into production? Somehow, they just don't carry on the fine tradition the older UMC Remington's had.

I have a R-1178 "Baby Bullet" I carry on a regular basis and it holds an edge extremely well. A good size too. Not too bulky, but still big enough to do most jobs you would normally ask of a "pocket sized knife".

Dewman

[Phil Gibbs]

All Camillus made Remington repros were stainless, earlier ones were 440B, later ones 440A.

Some of the non bullet knives were made of 0170-6C

Case CV is NOT 0170-6C!

[longbeachbum]

Thanks again Phil:

I posted this question here and at Bladeforums, no where else. So, you don't have to worry about having to post your response more than twice

Regards,

Jim

[marcinek]

Phil, if Case CV isn't 0170-6, do you, or anyone know what it is?

I was under the impression it was 0170-6 aka 50100-B.

I thought I might have finally figured the whole thing out! Phooey!

[Phil Gibbs]

Jim,

0170-6C was a proprietary steel that we had made that was specified by Dan Maragni.

We had to buy a whole Heat of it (60,000+ pounds) at once!

We used it to make the knives we built for Cold Steel (where it was known as Carbon V). Because we had to buy so much, Cold Steel agreed to let Camillus use it too. I came up with the name 0170-6C as obviously we could not call it Carbon V!!!

[longbeachbum]

That's where I got confused. I'd always heard that Cold Steel Carbon V was the same as Case CV. I think that's a common misperception. Is it very similar to your knowledge?

Thanks again Phil. I'm glade you stumbled across my question.

Regards,

Jim

Edited: I remembered where I formed the impression that Case CV and 0170-6C were the same. Heres the webpage: http://www.cutleryscience.com/reviews/b ... ml#C_52100

Here's the quote from that page:

"This is one of the more common carbon steels in the cutlery industry, however it is rarely called by that name. Cold Steel calls it Carbon V, Camillus calls it 0170-6C, and Case calls it "chrome vanadium", W7 is tool steel with a similar composition."