cigar cutters

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:14 pm

Before anyone gets excited, I know this sight is about pocket knives!! But I have a old cigar cutter with a stanhope viewer and pearl handles from early 1900s told it was in the busch beer family, trying to find a collector or some info on it ,looks like wester & butz maker Thanks

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:24 pm

Hi leepost. Sounds very interesting

. Please show a pic if possible. Thanks

s-k

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:26 pm

Yeah,post a pic,Bro.sounds cool!

smiling-knife · Post by **smiling-knife** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:31 pm

So far, according to Goins.... Wester Bros of NY (1904-1967) were the sole importers of Wester & Butz products from Solingen Germany.

s-k

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:34 pm

thanks I will get a picture on soon 11

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:42 am

naugatuck picture[/img] this is a busch beer family cigar cutter/knife with a stanhope viewer lens where the end rivet was for the blade .the picture is all orginal of his mistress in 1875. thats verified!!It has pearl handles about 2" closed 3and half open all in working cont.

johnnierotten · Post by **johnnierotten** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:55 am

Thats cool,I've never seen one like that.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:36 am

Cool!

Most of the "V" cutters I have seen from the last 50+ years have the "V" cutter positioned so that you put the end of the cutter on the end of the cigar. This is the first one I have seen that cuts perpendicular to the cigar. It is also the first one I have seen with a Stanhope viewer in it.

Very nice find. As far as the forum goes, it is a cutter that fits in the pocket, hence I don't find it a great stretch to put it here. It is pocket cutlery.

Dale

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 1:47 am

I found out in late 1800s early 1900s cigars were pointed on ends they called them cutters gilitenes

gmusic · Post by **gmusic** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:05 am

Can we get a peek at the mistress?

lol................cool piece.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:11 am

that's a neat old tool. is it a wester & butz or naugatuck? i'm confused. is there any advertising on it? most of the a-b stanhopes i've seen are embellished.

PA Knives · Post by **PA Knives** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:46 am

HI!

The Stanhope lens will make it more valuable than if not adorned with it. It would easily add another $100 to $200 to the price alone. Interesting that this non-knife related items is so collectable. Nice knife

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:50 pm

Hello Leepost,

That is really a jewel of a piece, I agree that the stanhope really sets it apart in functionality and value..

Sunburst

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:01 am

I finally got time to scan my favorite cigar cutter, an Al Mar Executive.
IIRC, the blade is ATS-34. The lighter that slips in the case is a Mini Bic. I used this for years as one of my EDCs. The blade is so sharp that you can make a clean "V" cut or cut the entire end off of the wrapper leaf of the cigar, my personal favorite way to cut a good cigar.

IMO, the "V" concentrates the smoke through a smaller area and tends to get bitter, especially with stronger cigars. Also most guillotine style "V" cutters are not sharp enough to cut cleanly without mashing the head of the cigar, often tearing the fine wrapper.

One of the advantages of managing 3 smoke shops (one was about 3/4 cutlery & all sold knives) was that I got hundreds of excellent salesman's sample cigars each year.
Ah, the good old days!

Dale

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:12 pm

hey leepost, show us a picture of the wester and butz cigar cutter with the stanhope viewer.

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:23 pm

its a naugatuck and thats the picture the lens viewer is were the rivet would be for the blade!!!!

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Thu May 03, 2007 9:44 pm

i'm sorry, at first you said you had one by wester and butz with a stanhope. confusing.

leepost · Post by **leepost** » Thu May 03, 2007 11:05 pm

thats what our friends at stanhope told me! than with further research and help from AAPK find out it was naugatuck! big difference on value