Camillus WWII and before!

The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. The company manufactured Camillus branded knives and was a prolific contractor for other knife brands up until its last days in 2007 when the company filed for bankruptcy.
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Here is another early stamp
I believe its a maize knife..the nail nick is placed a little closer to the tang
and the blade spine is shaped a little differently than the pruner
4" 3 line stamp
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY Co
NEW-YORK

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travman wrote:Thanks carmillus
It was your fine Hobo that made me search for one in that condition
i got lucky and found it with that early tang stamp ::tu::
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travman, where did you find your hobo knife??-i've had so many computer problems lately, i haven 't been able to search on ebay- i only have 1 camillus with a 3 line stamp(curved)- an old tuxedo knife-3 1/2" with ebony wood handles and a bar shield-wish i had more!!
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carrmillus wrote:i have one like it with the 4 line stamp-1914-1941, it's near mint with brown jigged bone, and it's probably my favorite camillus!-great find!!!!
Let`s see a picture of it ::nod:: ::suspense::
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Miller Bro`s wrote:
carrmillus wrote:i have one like it with the 4 line stamp-1914-1941, it's near mint with brown jigged bone, and it's probably my favorite camillus!-great find!!!!
Let`s see a picture of it ::nod:: ::suspense::
there are photos of it on this forum posted earlier by a friend(i'm a computer dummy)-the thread is titled-"camillus take-apart hobo knife" on page 3-my whole collection is on the thread-"my camillus collection"-thanks for asking about it!
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Thanks for the link Dale, it turns out I posted in that thread and forgot about it ::doh:: :lol:

That hobo is a beauty ::drool:: ::tu::
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Such a marvellous fit on this Sword Brand four line.
Tight as a drum and smooth as a snake. Still my best slipjoint.
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I like that Edge, a really grrrrr8 looking knife. Bone or composite?
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I found out more information about this 1915 Camillus marlinspike knife posted on page 9 of this topic.
Camillus 1915 a.jpg

After Christmas I emailed Mike Silvey some pictures of this knife and ask him what he knew about it.
Before I emailed him I found another mark on the knife. It appeared to be a circle with an arrowhead inside it. I sent Mike a picture of this marking as well as the ones I posted on page 9.
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Mike replied that the knife was made for the Canadian military during World War I. Schatt and Morgan also made this pattern for the Canadian military. The marking I had noticed on the marlinspike, Mike explained was called a ‘broad arrow’ inside of letter “C.” Upon closer inspection of the mark I did notice a serif at the top of the opening of the "C." I had assumed both sides of the circle were broken due to the small radius of the marlinspike. As it turns out only the backside of the “C” was broken due to the small radius.


Here is a better picture of the tang stamps.
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It is both interesting and satisfying to me to establish the historical context and the history around a particular knife.
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(That is not a good representation of a 'Broad Arrow'. They are all like the Australian mark shown below.)



Or someday you might run onto an Australian MoD mark. The 'Broad Arrow' was sometimes inside a larger 'D' similar to the Canadian mark.
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Good info Jerry, thanks! ::tu::

Where did you find that info?
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On Olof Janson's F-S web site. It's my go to web site for all things Fairbairn Sykes.

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artiklar/fs/fs_knife1.htm
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tjmurphy wrote:I like that Edge, a really grrrrr8 looking knife. Bone or composite?
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This one is composite,TJ.
A single blade version would just disappear in the pocket.
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Dale and Jerry ::tu::
thanks for the great research into that marlinspike
Ive seen a few of those and always shyed away from
them thinking it was a english made with a Camillus blade
added to them as a replacement for the original

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How about this Victor Tool Kit
A 3 Line stamp Camillus tool /knife holder
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY CO
CAMILLUS NY
3-7/8"
5 tools
chisel
leather punch
hoof pick
flat screw driver
file/rasp
It has very hard snap and all tools fit tightly into knife
Would it be a carriage drivers kit ?

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Here is a 3-1/4" junior stock knife
Sword brand stamp on front of main
3018 stamped on rear of main (it is listed on page 11 of the Sword brand catalog)
The Spey blade has a different stamp than what ive seen before

CAMILLUS
CUT CO
N.Y.U.S.A.

Blades still have great snap

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8) 8)
I have not seen that tang stamp before!
Very nice. ::tu::
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Nice find Travman! Did you buy it specifically for the stamp or did you only notice once you got the knife?
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Dale its another piece to the very large puzzle of tang stamps from Camillus

Smokepole I bought it for the bone handles and the fact it was a Sword Brand
with a different tang stamp was a bonus ::tu::

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Trav,
Can I borrow those pics for my list of Camillus tang stamps?

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Dale,
Help youself to those and any others ive posted
they are put here for us to learn from.
if you need a better pic just let me know
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Thanks Trav! ::tu::
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Here is a double ended jack
3-5/8" Pickbone handles?I dont think they would be Rogers bone?
3 line main
CAMILLUS
CUTLERY Co.
NEW-YORK
the curved stamp on secondary blade

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With that tang stamp I think that is WWI from what Tom Williams told me.
Goins dates those two tang stamps with serif letters on the master blade and sans serif letters on the secondary blade (and arched top line) to circa 1916, which was during WWI.

I think those handles may be Rogers bone, perhaps an earlier pattern or one that is worn way down.
The color looks right to me.

Dinitri, what do you think? You are better at spotting Rogers bone than I am.
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That is a really nice knife Trav, I like it a LOT ::woot:: ::woot::
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