Drinking and Knives

[smiling-knife]

That's a beauty PA. I love old corkscrew knives. Thanks s-k

[lt632ret]

Schrade cut and Walden. LT

[upnorth]

This is posted in the old knives thread, but it seems to belong here too! If not please delete!
Syracuse (Camillus) from pre WWII, from my family's wholesale grocery business

[thegreedygulo]

Some champagne & bottle opener knives.

[thegreedygulo]

More of the same.

[FRJ]

Great thread and great knives.

Here's a couple of old Bruckmann.

The celluloid covered knives: Top one is well made from Italy and the other one......
a cheap knife advertizing Paris.

[cattaraugus57]

have more...somewhere..
nice thread...

[knifegirl888]

What a cool party! Here's some for the drinkers & the smokers. I don't drink much & I don't smoke, but what girl can resist pearls & gold??

[smiling-knife]

I love the old champagne patterns. Great example knifegirl.

Here are a few more.

[lt632ret]

I always liked this Schrade Walden version getting rather rare even rarer if the stanhope works Regards and good hloiday to all LT. PS I do not remember if one of these was posted but, heck they are always fun to look at.

[smiling-knife]

Those are great looking knives LT. Thanks for posting your's. Best wishes for a Happy Holiday to you too s-k

[Just Plain Dave]

All I got is this sorta SAK. INOX over SOLINGEN over GERMANY on the main blade
and INOX over SOLINGEN on the small blade. Brass liners. Carbon Corkscrew.
Scales SEEM to be held on the same way as SAKs.

[Old Hunter]

Put mine to work - gotta earn it's keep!

[Miller Bro's]

LT,

What is one of those Schrades worth these days in that condition?

I see some pretty high prices on them

[lt632ret]

Well it is kinda nuts. If the knife and stanhope are perfect it is kind of skys the limit 500 or more. Now that being said if the knife is perfect and the stan hope ( which has a celluloid pic of the beermaker himself is totally unviewable) ( cell negative inside is totally finished or missing you can knock off 100 ) but if the knife is perfect which is strangly the way alot that you find are, since this is an item that usuallly someone got then put away in a dresser draw and saved. They were so nice not many carried them . This of course also speeded up the decay of the cell negative. Especially if the closed area it was in had other celluloid ( handled knives and as will happen in a closed area when one starts to break down it takes all the other cell with it.)

One trick to remember is to look through the stanhope and put a light on the other side of the hole the extra light may show that the negative has just darkened and more light will make it lighter and viewable. The next problem is that is when these which were carried the enamel and paint would chip and also affect value and of course if the knife was used especially on metal such as bottles beer and wine ect they would scratch and again affect price. However the real killer of the price of these is the corkscrew which as you can see is a gold colored metal and for what ever reason were kind of soft and if not used absolutely correctly would break and even if they were used correctly would easily scratch the plating.. So I guess all these reasons were why they were usually just put away . certainly a pretty perhapes beautiful ( if you are a knife nut like me and call knives beautiful ) However not overly practical and usually stored incorrectly so kind of like most drunks doomed from the start.

A decent example can sometimes be found at under 200 perhapes around 175. Unless of course you have some little old lady who does not know the value. From there they go up ( again I am talking about Schrades , There are Kaster and many other companies that made them I do not know enough aout them to reference there value. A really mint Schrade is not unusual at 500 and up although once in a while ebay will get one with a buy it now at 300 or 400. Which if nearly mint is pretty good if you really want one.

The most I have seen was a fellow who had 4 salesmans samples ( I have been told that there were 4 models with subtle minor enamel ect differences ( frankly unless they were side by side I coukld not tell you exactly what they were ), Well this fellow had the complete set mint in salesmans samples. He approached me at one of the hunting clubs I belong to and mentioned them I asked him what he wanted for them and he said not for sale they were for his children when he passed. Over the years he offered them to (at first ) for 1400 dollars each . Over the years he finally went down to 3000 dollars for all four . I offered him two thousand for all four ( this was years ago. ) He turned it down and passed away. I did inquire after a while about the knives I was told that one son had traded his for a hunting rifle out in Montana or Wyoming or one of those states where he lived . Another son had sold his along with everything else he had inherited. The other two were being saved to pass on by his daughters. So that is the story proving once again what I always say that in the long run the only knife deals I have ever regretted were the ones where for price or some other reason I did not buy the item. By the way my 2000 dollar offer was well thought out I made it in cash money infront of several people in the hope the cash would spur him to take it he had a heart condition and I knew he needed the money . Truthfully the extra grand would have inconvienced me but would have helped him and in the end the set would have been saved but that is how it went down.

So as you can see even though I have not posted for a while I still give long winded answers. Hell what was your question oh yes value I guess the answer is what ever you are willing to pay if you want something. Just keep in mind you may never get a second chance. By the way when you going to sell me one of those MILLER NAVY GRAVITY KNIVES. I still havent gotten one. Regards LT PS Funny these days I am hard pressed to remember what I had for breakfast but, I can remember conversations and knives verbatum from years ago. Well I guess it is like Einstien who when asked his phone number didn't remember it and asked how such a briliant man could solve the questions of the universe but could not remember his phone number he answered that it just isn't important enough for him to remember. I guess that is why I only remember knives.

[knife7knut]

Here are a few from my collection:

[Miller Bro's]

Thanks for the reply LT, and I don`t mind the long winded ones either

Reason I asked about the price is I have found one that is basically in unused condition, the view is intact and the guy wants $350 for it.

Do you know how long Schrade continued to make these? The guy said he received this one as a gift in the late 1960`s

So that is the story proving once again what I always say that in the long run the only knife deals I have ever regretted were the ones where for price or some other reason I did not buy the item.

This is very true, I have had the same experience over the years

[lt632ret]

Your time frame is about right for the knife I do not remember exactlly. But in 72 they changed stamps and these are marked Schrade Walden. Let me know if you don't want it. I might tender an offer. LT

[Miller Bro's]

I sent him an offer earlier today have not heard back yet. If it don`t work out I will put you in touch with him

[smiling-knife]

This one is German circa 1900. Sadly, the stanhope is now just a hole.

[Beechtree]

Figured I would bump this thread up, it is a fascinating one.
This Holley has seen some use, but it still has a beautiful profile.
When closed, the cigar blade depresses and one could cut a cigarette/cigar inserted through the whole.

[smiling-knife]

Glad to see this thread revised. Nice old Holley Beechtree. I recently found a friend for my Busch advertising knife. The red and black knife is stamped N Kastor Ohligs Germany on the tang. It is the older and rarer design with the spread eagle wings.

[orvet]

That is a beauty S-K!
In fact both are beauties!

[wazu013]

Here's a couple of CAMCO U.S.A. knives

[thegreedygulo]

H. Boker & Co. Solingen.