A Rare Unique Knife by Friedr. Herder, Germany

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A Rare Unique Knife by Friedr. Herder, Germany

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A Rare Unique Knife by Friedr. Herder, Germany

Decription: A rare and unique knife by Friedr. Herder Germany
"In order to make Herder-knives unique, "Pic-As" is being registered as the oldest trademark in Solingen.". Length: 21 cm (8.3") ; Max. Width: 3.5 cm (1.4") Weight: 167 gram (5.9 oz).

For more details see: http://www.herder-solingen.de/e/profile/

I was happy to grab this one. It's being shipped from Tel Aviv, Israel ($39.00 with shipping). I was surprised I won it for that price. She may not be the prettiest knife I own in my collection but it has real history. I can't wait to get in my hands and see it in my showcase.

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Interesting knife. The various states that make-up Germany didn't become unified as a country until 1871. I think the knife was made after 1891 when the country of origin was required on imports to the US. :) s-k

added: Just looked at the link posted above.... The Don Carlos trademark dates to 1931.
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hello,
it would be surprising if this knife dates from the XVIIIth century - the markings of the blade uses a more modern typeface and then labeling techniques were less accurate ::nod::
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Re: A Rare Unique 18th C Knife by Friedr. Herder, Germany

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so what type of blade is it and for what use, reminds me of my carrot that a friend made for me, usefull little knife,

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Update: I received the knife in the mail. The knife appears to have very old dry out now leather for handles. I also found a number on the blade 4238. Also along with the ace of spade stamp there is another stamp that I believe to be to skeleton keys crossed.

It's a heavy knife 8 1/2 inches long (total), the blade is tapered from 1 3/4" to about 1 1/8 inches

I found this on the internet. It shows the skeleton key marking and dates it to 1895 but the number listed with that info is 6082 ? So I'm still a bit lost on the sure date of this knife.

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Draac wrote:Update: I received the knife in the mail. The knife appears to have very old dry out now leather for handles. I also found a number on the blade 4238. Also along with the ace of spade stamp there is another stamp that I believe to be to skeleton keys crossed.

It's a heavy knife 8 1/2 inches long (total), the blade is tapered from 1 3/4" to about 1 1/8 inches

I found this on the internet. It shows the skeleton key marking and dates it to 1895 but the number listed with that info is 6082 ? So I'm still a bit lost on the sure date of this knife.

Draac
Probably sometime that year 1895.
And there were many markings that changed within that year.
Just a thought~

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With the Don Carlos mark it must be 1931 or later as shown in the original link.

http://www.herder-solingen.de/e/profile/
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I found this Herder knife amongst my fixed blade knives. It's 10 1/4" long and looks like a butcher knife. It seems rather crudely made. Al
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Re: A Rare Unique Knife by Friedr. Herder, Germany

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Does the Don Carlos have anything to do with the Don Carlos Fuente of the famous cigar company Fuente Cigars? He is known as Don Carlos in the cigar world?
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