Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

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Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by orvet » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:40 am

There have been questions on a couple threads about where to buy pin-stock for knife repairs. Here are my thoughts on the subject of pin-stock and where I get them.

I like to have as many different sizes of pin stock on hand as I can find.
Many older knives are made with pins that are not standard proportions with the sizes readily available in the local hardware store or through a knife supply house.
Some old knives have damaged pin holes and may need a larger pin size.
Some knives I repair are made in Europe where they use the metric system.
It only stands to reason that a well-stocked repair shop will have metric pins as well as the standard English measurements.


NICKEL SILVER PIN-STOCK
The following nickel silver pin stocks are available from Jantz Supply:

1. .0625” = 1/16”
2. .070” = 1.8mm
3. .078” = 2 mm
4. .0935” = 3/32”
5. .098” = 2.5 mm
6. .118” = 3 mm
7. .125” = 1/8”

Jantz carries the 4 metric sizes that I use a lot, probably more than the standard sizes.
It is a big jump from 1/16” to 1/32”. Consequently I use a lot of 1.8 mm & 2 mm nickel silver pins. Of the knife maker supply houses that I use, USA Knifemaker’s Supply, Texas Knifemaker’s Supply, Knife & Gun (K&G) and Jantz Supply, Jantz is the only one that carries nickel silver in the metric sizes. As a result, I buy most all of my nickel silver from Jantz Supply.


BRASS PIN-STOCK
The assortment of brass pin stock Jantz has is a bit more limited.
They carry 1/16”, 3/32” & 1/8”.

I also get an assorted package at Ace Hardware that contains the following 3 sizes:
.072”
. 081”
.114”
This is the label on the pack of 3 assorted sizes of brass rods (pin-stock). You can use this label to order this pack from your local Ace Hardware store.<br />I think True Value Hardware also gets brass rods from K&amp;S Engineering.
This is the label on the pack of 3 assorted sizes of brass rods (pin-stock). You can use this label to order this pack from your local Ace Hardware store.
I think True Value Hardware also gets brass rods from K&S Engineering.
I use a lot of the .072” & .081” size pins.
Recently I have found some 2 mm & 2.5 mm on ebay from the UK. Apparently those sizes are used in the UK in some RR modeling. The shipping makes them about twice the price of similar sizes available in the US, but I really don’t like to turn down a piece of pin-stock if I can avoid it. ::dang::


STAINLESS STEEL PIN-STOCK
Jantz carries 1/16”, 3/32” & 1/8” stainless steel pin-stock. You may be able to find other sizes at local hardware stores. Since I mostly work on old knives, I seldom use stainless steel.

I do have some pin-stock larger than 1/8” but I don’t think I have ever used them in a knife.
But it is seldom that I even use 1/8” pins, except for large lockbacks like Buck 110 or Schrade LB7.

If you have other sources for pin-stock and in other sizes, please share them!
I am always looking for new sizes of pins, especially between .065” and .090” in brass and nickel silver.
If you have a source, please share them!

I hope this info helps,
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by paulsvintage » Fri Apr 29, 2011 10:40 am

thanks, for the fast reply and all your help
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by jerryd6818 » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:17 am

Just suppliers of pins plus other knife making supplies. Suppliers of handle materials is a whole other list.

USA Knifemaker’s Supply - http://www.usaknifemaker.com/

Texas Knifemaker’s Supply - http://www.texasknife.com/vcom/index.php

Knife & Gun (K&G) - http://www.knifeandgun.com/

Jantz Supply - http://kyagl.phnqv.servertrust.com/default.asp

Knife Kits.com - http://www.knifekits.com/vcom/index.php ... thp2cfhqq0

Alpha Knife Supply - http://alphaknifesupply.com/
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Post by paulsvintage » Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:33 pm

::super_happy:: Jerry , thanks
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by gruntmedik » Mon May 02, 2011 2:16 am

Wow, you must have ESPN, as I was planning on asking this question this evening. :shock:

Thanks for the info.
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Post by muskrat man » Mon May 02, 2011 6:42 pm

McMaster Carr carries a good variety of brass pin stock from 3/32" to 6" diameter
http://www.mcmaster.com/#brass-alloy-rods/=c4rxvr
I mostly use 1/16", 3/32" and 1/8" if something is too big I turn it down to the correct size. I do get the metric nickel pins from jantz though they are very handy to have on hand. For old steel bolstered folders I use carbon steel welding rod so it matches the bolster color when polished
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by just bob » Sun May 22, 2011 3:05 pm

When you get this rod do you precut it to a certain standard lengths? How critical is it to saw the ends flush when you make cuts? I have just been using nippers on the few I have tried and I see where others say to square cut with a Dremel tool or something. I don't see the big deal.
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by orvet » Sun May 22, 2011 9:16 pm

I leave it full length and cut it to the length I need as I need it.

If I am spinning a bunch of scale pins, I cut it to 3/4" & flatten one end and spin the head on it.
I usually grind a point on the other end, just to make it easier to put in the hole in the scale.
Most scales are not nearly thick enough to need a 3/4" pin, it is just that smaller than 3/4" and it is hard to clamp the pin stock in the vise & spin the head on the pin.

But aside from the scale pins I pre-make, I leave the pin stock in full length.
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by Miller Bro's » Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:23 pm

orvet wrote:Many older knives are made with pins that are not standard proportions with the sizes readily available in the local hardware store or through a knife supply house.
Ever wonder how the old knife companies made all the different size wire they used on pocket knives?

Knife companies bought nickle, brass and steel wire, one size, not all the different sizes they needed for their knives, it did not come in straight lengths like you buy from these modern supply houses either, it came in large rolls.

They used a Wortle plate to size the wire to whatever particular size they wanted.

A Wortle plate is made of steel and it has tapered holes of various sizes through which the larger wire was fed, it was then pulled through the tapered hole and it came out the other side the proper diameter.

Needless to say these plates are very rare and quite honestly if I had one to put in front of a modern knife maker they would have no idea what the hell it was used for.

Just one of the many facts I have uncovered in my ongoing search for the knowledge the early cutlers used to make pocket knives :wink:
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by whitebuffalo58 » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:36 am

That's cool stuff there, Dimitri!!
I use a similar plate to resize wooden dowel stock for the occasional custom furniture piece. It'd be a whole lot tougher feeding a piece of metal rod through one though! Even if it was brass or nickel silver.
I buy oversize stock, cut my pins to length then chuck them up in a drill and spin them down on the belt sander.(320 grit) I leave 'em in the drill and spin 'em up on a polishing wheel to finish them off. You can pretty much custom fit any size pin that's needed that way.

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Post by Bill DeShivs » Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:15 am

Jewelers use "draw plates" to pull wire to proper diameter. They might be OK to use if you needed a lot of one particular size, but is a restoration/repair setting it's easier to file pins to size if you don't have the proper diameter. Wire coat hangers are a great source of mild steel pin stock in various sizes. I also use nails and brads. I buy my brass pin stock from McMaster, and nickel silver wherever I can find the sizes I need.
Knifemakers' supply houses only carry a few sizes for makers, as they can make the holes fit their pin stock.
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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by tony111 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 10:02 pm

heres a good place to buy its pretty cheap to

http://www.hobbylinc.com/

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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by Brettnz » Wed May 27, 2015 11:37 am

I get my brass rod from local model shop here in New Zealand, they use it for axles in cars etc, I run a jewellers workshop and wouldn't worry about using a draw plate for brass

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Re: Where to Buy Pin-Stock for Knife Repairs

Post by Bargle » Wed Feb 17, 2016 4:50 pm

Many hobby and craft shops carry K&S brand tubing and solid rods. Also sheet brass and copper in small amounts. I've found the K&S stuff at Hobbytown USA and Hobby Lobby.

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