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penknife - pocket knife ?
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penknife - pocket knife ?
As a boy we always called little folding knives as penknives, these days i call them pocket knives, is the term penknife a uk thing or was there such a thing as a penknife
sorry for such a newbie question
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Pen Knife used to sharpen Quill Pens, kind of a office knife see attached
Lots of different makes, styles etc
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
We called them pen knives here in Pennsylvania too. They were usually smaller knives, maybe 2 1/2 to 3 inches, equal ends and blade configuration like the one GRINC posted. I picked up a few really nice old ones cheap. I don't think as many people collect them as the larger patterns.
Here's a few:
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ife#p43066
http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... ife#p43066
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
yeah i see now, lots of the knives i had early on where like the one shown, i guess the name penknife just stuck, thanks for posting the pics up 
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Modern day usage seems to be small, single blade or two blades on opposite ends riding on one backspring.
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
I've allways referred to them as Sunday knives. Because they were made for light use.
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cheers guys , i now know the difference, forever learning 
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Looking in the "Articles & Research" category of this website under Case-Case knives by name the following definition is given:
Pen:
The name pen is shared by many knives. As a general rule, it describes any double ended knife that measures less than 3 1/2" closed. Some pens include the senator or equal end pen, the sleeveboard pen, and the premium pen. Senator pens are those with a perfectly oval shaped handle. Sleeveboard pens have a handle that tapers to a narrower rear. Premium pen knives are generally classified as pen knives that share the pattern number with a stockman knife. This is of course subject to argument, but most collectors categorize pens in this manner.
Based on that info the following attached should apply
Pen:
The name pen is shared by many knives. As a general rule, it describes any double ended knife that measures less than 3 1/2" closed. Some pens include the senator or equal end pen, the sleeveboard pen, and the premium pen. Senator pens are those with a perfectly oval shaped handle. Sleeveboard pens have a handle that tapers to a narrower rear. Premium pen knives are generally classified as pen knives that share the pattern number with a stockman knife. This is of course subject to argument, but most collectors categorize pens in this manner.
Based on that info the following attached should apply
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Knice lineup Doc.
I was going to post a G62087pen but the pictures are gone !
Must be one of the 087s I sent to Tracy.
I gotta start writing this stuff down. (ker-duh)
Anywho, still got some regular lil size ones.
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I was going to post a G62087pen but the pictures are gone !
Must be one of the 087s I sent to Tracy.
I gotta start writing this stuff down. (ker-duh)
Anywho, still got some regular lil size ones.
5233

Q42

705UH

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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
thanks guys for all the pics and info, im inlightened
now i need some penknives for my collection 
Paul,
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Here is a pen knife that I have. Case XX USA 8233, genuine MOP. Both blades open on same, single spring.
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That is sweet TJ, i do like MOP 
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
i have a few pen knives to add
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
paulsvintage wrote:i have a few pen knives to add
Paul,
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Originally, pen knives were single-bladed knives but now these are known as quill knives. More recently, pen knife refers to a small knife with a blade on each end as mentioned. Unless it is a 'jumbo' penknife, which can be 4 inches plus. Most pattern names are modern inventions. In days of yor, they were simply known as two-bladed knives. However, there were knives that were actually pens/pencils. Also, there were desk knives which were fixed blade knives with a pen blade.. It's all a bit of a minefield.
s-k
Thanks everyone for posting the many great looking pen knives.

Thanks everyone for posting the many great looking pen knives.
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
thanks mate for more info, i rembemer seeing a lot of smaller 2 bladed penknives years ago , although since getting into pocket knives again i like the stockman blade selection,smiling-knife wrote:Originally, pen knives were single-bladed knives but now these are known as quill knives. More recently, pen knife refers to a small knife with a blade on each end as mentioned. Unless it is a 'jumbo' penknife, which can be 4 inches plus. Most pattern names are modern inventions. In days of yor, they were simply known as two-bladed knives. However, there were knives that were actually pens/pencils. Also, there were desk knives which were fixed blade knives with a pen blade.. It's all a bit of a minefield.s-k
Thanks everyone for posting the many great looking pen knives.![]()
Paul,
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
Heres some of mine,,
Wr. Case & Sons
Schatt & Morgan Gowanda
Original Pine Knot
Manhattan Knife co. (Sweet little pearl,,picture is poor)
Wr. Case & Sons
Schatt & Morgan Gowanda
Original Pine Knot
Manhattan Knife co. (Sweet little pearl,,picture is poor)
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New York Knife
Waterville Cut. Co. Conn.
Norville Shapleigh
Schatt & Morgan Tittusville
Waterville Cut. Co. Conn.
Norville Shapleigh
Schatt & Morgan Tittusville
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Case Bros.
Platts Bros. N.Y. New York
Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett
Platts Bros. N.Y. New York
Hibbard Spencer & Bartlett
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
edgy46 wrote:We all have penknives lets see em.
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
This is a 'jumbo' pen knife at about 4 inches closed. Made for the Army & Navy department store by an unknown Sheffield maker circa 1910
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Re: penknife - pocket knife ?
I have always called the knives,less than 3 inches,"'Pen Knives"" ____a few ,that I have accumulated,through the years 
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