Rusty Roosters

[hammillmc]

I have several hundred roosters, kept in a ceader chest, a good many of them are getting alot of rust on the blades. What is the best way to slow the rust down, been using 3 in1 oil.
thanks, Mike

[FRJ]

What is the best way to slow the rust down, been using 3 in1 oil.

Perhaps moving them to a drier enviornment would help.

[Tom Hudson]

I have several hundred roosters, kept in a ceader chest, a good many of them are getting alot of rust on the blades. What is the best way to slow the rust down, been using 3 in1 oil.
thanks, Mike

Frank really liked 2 handle materials - Mother of Pearl & celluloid! – I would guess the gas from the celluloid is what causing the rust – years ago The National Knife Museum lots thousands of dollars worth of knives from this. If the knives are in an enclosed area like a box, display case, knife roll it can and will happen, you might get lucky for ???? weeks? months? years? but it will happen - All celluliod handled knives should be stored where they breath and kept away from other knives - if i'm liein i'm die-in! I have one 300 dollar knife right now that i had to clean the blade up on - Now I'm asking 125 bucks for the knife! good luck - If you don't have any celluloid handled knives in the box let me know but i would be surprised - tom

[singin46]

Tom is right on the money, you have to let them out in the open to slow the process or you won't have any knives left a year from now. I've seen it happen too many times to mention. And with the celluloid used on a lot of those Roosters, they can be really bad about gassin out before their time. Don't want to alarm you but it may be too late for some of them already, hard to say without actually seein them. I keep all my cells out in the open air and check them regularly to make sure they're ok. Also keep the damaged cells away from the better condition ones.

[Tom Hudson]

Tom is right on the money, you have to let them out in the open to slow the process or you won't have any knives left a year from now. I've seen it happen too many times to mention. And with the celluloid used on a lot of those Roosters, they can be really bad about gassin out before their time. Don't want to alarm you but it may be too late for some of them already, hard to say without actually seein them. I keep all my cells out in the open air and check them regularly to make sure they're ok. Also keep the damaged cells away from the better condition ones.

it's also a little strange to me how they rust - the top half of the blade that is exposed to the air - in time the handle material just crumbles and falls apart - i only have maybe 3 or 4 celluliod scaled knives - they can be beautiful but you have to know what your dealing with - this celluliod thing should either be a sticky or talked about more often so new knife people comming into the sport are aware of this problem - tom

[singin46]

Now that you mention it, it is strange why they rust in this manner. I'm sure there is a scientific explanation for it tho.

[justold52]

I would like to add one or two things more.

I would not store them in the sun-lite and with the blades closed.

The other thing is just my idea. If you use any metal polish on them. Make sure you wash off the gunk with WD-40 or mineral oil. I even use dental floss to clean between the handle and bolsters. Perhaps its the polish that in time helps a chemical reaction. Then blow it out with compressed air gun.

I use Ren-Wax after all of the knife is polished and clean.
I have done this now for 9 years and to this date have not had one gas-out.

Here is a link about Cell Handle.... lots of GR8 stuff in it.

http://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/kni ... 63&start=0

Ken

[singin46]

Good ideas Ken, Although I have never left my knives open and haven't had any issues. But I do think it depends where you live and the relative humidity factor. Certainly a read everyone needs to read.

[gmusic]

Hey hamm,

You don't want to slow rust down, you want to stop it! Ken has some good ideas and the link is a good one. You don't mention handle material, are they naturals or cells? Get them out of that chest for now and oil those babies up until we figure out what you have.

Got pictures?

[singin46]

Good plan Gary, I thought we were talkin strickly bout cells.

[gmusic]

He may have been Perry! Have to wait to hear back I guess.......

[Tom Hudson]

i took out an old knife roll i haven't open in a long time - small collection of yellow scale fishing knives - one of the yellow handles on I think it was a Case XX is a mess - looks like the scales have shrunk really bad - ends are curling up with some green crud on the brass liner - no rust issues - most of this yellow scale material is just plastic of some sort - The mark side look faded like it was in a display case with the sun hitting it - the other dozen or so knives were fine? - tom

[justold52]

Hello Tom;

Key words here are "i took out an old knife roll i haven't open in a long time" ?

For any knife savers those words can become a nightmare. Cell handles look so nice but please do not store them with other handled knives and never let them go for 6 mo. with out looking at them. I am sure you would not put a Pit-bull dog with a Poodle and leave them for a long time with out looking at them.
All we get about Cell handles is bad. I for one love the looks of many of them. So if your saving any just do not save them with your others knives. Read up and ENJOY your Cells. Many helpfull ways of what not to do to Cells.

Ken

[Tom Hudson]

Hello Tom;

Key words here are "i took out an old knife roll i haven't open in a long time" ?

For any knife savers those words can become a nightmare. Cell handles look so nice but please do not store them with other handled knives and never let them go for 6 mo. with out looking at them. I am sure you would not put a Pit-bull dog with a Poodle and leave them for a long time with out looking at them.
All we get about Cell handles is bad. I for one love the looks of many of them. So if your saving any just do not save them with your others knives. Read up and ENJOY your Cells. Many helpfull ways of what not to do to Cells.

Ken

Ken this material on mine isn't celluloid - i know celluloid - i have handled 2 or 3 hundred knives in the stuff - this stuff is a plastic - i took off the scales & ground on it - it's plastic - didn't explode or flash as i have happen with celluloid - didn't have the Cell smell either - smelled like plastic? also no rust on the knife none! as i posted before i only have 3 or 4 knives with cell & i keep them on a shelf - here a pic of imt. tort. in cell i just handled last week- tom

[singin46]

Hey Tom you got any of that imitation Tortoise shell left? I may have a little project for ya

[hammillmc]

Thanks for the input fellows, I will get the camera out and send some pix.
Thanks,
Mike

[Tom Hudson]

Hey Tom you got any of that imitation Tortoise shell left? I amy have a little project for ya

got enough for about 2 trapper size left - tom

[hammillmc]

I found an artical in a 1999 edition, artical on celuloid in knife world, it broke it down in small change for me, In anyone is interested i will try to cut and paste it though it is lenghtly.
Thanks,
Mike