Celluloid Handles

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 1:07 am

Not sure when it was made, definately not that new though

mumblypeg · Post by **mumblypeg** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 2:52 am

I know I'm a little late gettin' in on this but here' a couple of cells I have....

German made Buck Creek and a mini..

petesknives · Post by **petesknives** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:05 pm

Another cell, any idea on age or maker (Utica?). Thanks..........Ken

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:30 pm

Sweet one I will call her SALaMANDER

Sorry not every seen one like her. Super photo too.

Where do you find these jewles?

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 7:31 pm

It looks like a utica, but thats just me.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 8:04 pm

my books tell me that seneca was a brand used by utica cutlery co. from 1932-1942.

CarlM · Post by **CarlM** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 7:12 pm

petesknives · Post by **petesknives** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:28 pm

Gonna keep this thread alive!

petesknives · Post by **petesknives** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 5:33 pm

Another pic

sunburst · Post by **sunburst** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:54 pm

Very impressive knives there gents, nice way to keep the thread alive with jewels like that, nice..I'm loving that Utica

Sunburst

petesknives · Post by **petesknives** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:21 pm

A few more......... Ken

petesknives · Post by **petesknives** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:23 pm

Two John Primbles with waterfall handles

williamcrane · Post by **williamcrane** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:42 pm

I've noticed that Kissing Crane makes some knives with celluloid handles, in addition to bone. Why do they still use celluloid? Is this celluloid the same chemical composition as the old celluloid that is subject to gassing out?

nmikash · Post by **nmikash** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 4:15 pm

Great old Primbles. Very nice.

Nick

Turkey Creek Tom · Post by **Turkey Creek Tom** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:12 pm

I have posted a picture of this knife before, but as so many of you have pointed out be careful with those celluloid handle knifes.
As you can see I had this one stored in a knife pack and look what happened to it. One backspring broke; both handles cracked in two places; notice the burn marks on the bolsters and shield and notice the rust on the blades. The handles were blue swirl on this over 20 year old knife, now they are greenish. Now I need to send this knife to someone at AAPK.
Maybe one of you can put it in a corner of your basement workshop and start a AAPK museum. Use it to show the effects of improper storage and maybe I should send it to MM and let him have a go at repair. You all decide who I should send it to and let me know.

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:15 pm

Turkey Creek Tom ; I would like to know some more things about the care of this was a lovely lady.

Did you use any Non-Abrasive Metal Polish on it ?
I am starting to get the felling that if you polish the bolsters that some sceeps in the crack between the scales and bolsters. Then in time the Cell starts gassing or has a bad reaction to the stuff left in the crack. I am trying to use waxed dental floss with Ren-wax to clean out mine.

Did this hurt any other knives in the roll or pack?
Where was it stored? Damp place?

The more we know the more we save owers.

I think MM will give this one a new MAKE OVER. If he has TIME.

Turkey Creek Tom · Post by **Turkey Creek Tom** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:00 pm

justold52 wrote:Turkey Creek Tom ; I would like to know some more things about the care of this was a lovely lady.

Did you use any Non-Abrasive Metal Polish on it ?
I am starting to get the felling that if you polish the bolsters that some sceeps in the crack between the scales and bolsters. Then in time the Cell starts gassing or has a bad reaction to the stuff left in the crack. I am trying to use waxed dental floss with Ren-wax to clean out mine.

Did this hurt any other knives in the roll or pack?
Where was it stored? Damp place?

The more we know the more we save owers.

I think MM will give this one a new MAKE OVER. If he has TIME.

JUSTOLD 52:-->THE KNIFE WAS BOUGHT NEW AND PLACED IN THE KNIFE PACK. IT WAS NEVER POLISHED AT LEAST BY ME. AFTER ABOUT 10 OR 15 YEARS I MOVED AND PUT THE KNIFE PACK IN A TRUNK. HOT! HOT! AND PLACED IT IN THE ATTIC HOTTER! HOTTER! HOTTER! I DID NOT FOLLOW THE ADVICE AS SOMEONE ON HERE POSTED AND ENJOY THE KNIVES. I SIMPLY LEFT THEM IN A PACK OF 60 IN A HOT TRUNK IN A HOT ATTIC. IN FACT IT WASN'T UNTIL I FOUND THIS SITE AAPK THAT I WENT TO THE ATTIC AND MOVED THE KNIFE PACK...IN SO DOING I OPENED IT AND IT HAD EXPLODED...BREAKING ONE BACK SPRING...BOTH HANDLES IN TWO PLACES...PLUS BREAKING THE STRAP THAT HELD IT IN THE KNIFE PACK...TWO CELLULOID HANDLE KNIVES NEXT TO THIS ONE WERE NOT DAMAGED OTHER THAN SOME RUST ON THE BLADES.
THERE WAS ONE OTHER KNIFE THAT WAS IN ANOTHER AREA OF THE KNIFE PACK AND IT WAS DAMAGED BUT NONE LIKE THIS ONE. IT WAS SIMPLY POOR STORAGE ON MY PART AND IN A VERY HOT AREA THAT CAUSED THE KNIFE TO GASOUT! THERE SURELY MUST HAVE BEEN SOME CHEMICAL OR SOMETHING ON THE KNIVE...BECAUSE IT DID LEAVE A DARK STAIN (LIKE AN OIL STAIN) ON THE RED VELVET COVERING IN THE KNIFE PACK. JUST REMEMBER, I KEPT THIS KNIFE IN THE PACK FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS IN A CLOSET THEN MOVED IT TO THE HOT ATTIC WHERE IT STAYED FOR ABOUT 6 YEARS.

justold52 · Post by **justold52** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:41 am

Turkey Creek Tom ; Thank you very much for the info.
Now I know what it must be like to be a Priest and hear confessions.
Just give us one Hail Mary and you are forgiven.

Please do Not take this the wrong way (anyone).

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:51 am

Hey TTT,
If you decide to have it redone, I am envisioning some ironwood and a nice little single blade edc

muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 7:09 pm

to keep it moving, forgot I had this one

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 10:51 pm

New here, but really enjoy the forum. Here is a pick of an old Henry Sears and Son, 1865. Anyone know anything about this piece?

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:42 am

hey grizlly, cool knife, according to brl3;

that tang marking was made for farwell ozmun kirk, wholesaler out of chicago c. 1878-1959.

i'll try to verify those dates.

Grizlly Adams · Post by **Grizlly Adams** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:26 am

Thanks for the info, jonet143

Here are a couple of additional shots. Kinda nice touch on an older knife.

jonet143 · Post by **jonet143** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:09 am

yes, it is. milled liners dressed up a knife.

orvet · Post by **orvet** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 3:48 am

Nice knife Griz

Here is a scan of one I got in a bunch of knives. I didn't pay much attention to it, I thought it was just a cheapie with cracked scales. Once I looked at it I realized what it was. There are no cracks in the handles and the blades are shinny, the dark color is an affect of the scanner.

I also found the knife in a copy of a 1951 flier, the same year I was born. I must say, I wish I was in as good condition as the knife is.

Dale

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