I need some help, please.

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 1:53 am

Howdy, ya'll...
This is one of those "multi-purpose" postings. I'll bet that somebody here can point me in the right direction(s).
1. I need handles put on the Case trapper, a Queen trapper and the little Howard Bros. fingernail cleaner. I have carried the Case since it was new(early 60's 3254). Debbie says it's worn out, but I tell her it's just gittin' broke in. The Queen belonged to my Dad. The little Howard Brothers was my Grandpa Beach's. It has fancy bolsters and had a cell handle. I'm not too picky. Just something appropriate.
2. The leg knife is a:
Silver Edge over Raybestos over gold edge. All of these I have ever seen had a Remington blade in them. What would be the proper way to restore it and who can help me?
3. You guys that are up on your Remingtom knives. The 2 blade hawkbill has never been sharpened. It's got the circle UMC and no pattern number. Did this knife hae cell or wood handles on it? What do you think would be the proper way to restore it and who can help me?
Thank you all. Hope you have the best Christmas ever and best wishes for 2007.
...CCBill & Debbie...

remington collector · Post by **remington collector** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 2:29 am

#3. The vast majority of the Remington hawkbills were handled in cocobolo wood, some were in bone , and a precious few in stag. I have never saw or heard of a Rem hawkbill in cell. I would bet that yours is a R718. Does it still have the Remington etch? Are you looking to sell it or do you just want it rehandled? I might happen to know the whereabouts of a nice set of handles for this knife.

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:01 am

Hi, Remingtoncollector...
The only cell handled ones I've seen are the ones advertizing some sort of hemp rope(?). I would really like to have it re-handled and put it back in my mess of hawkbills and maize headers. I have 13 Remingtons, but this is the only 2 blade. Sorry, but there is no etch left. Wish there was. I would be interested in finding a good set of handles for it. I think Muskrat Man is going to help me out with some other things and maybe I can get him to do it professionally.
Thank you.
...Mild(not wild)CCBill...
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muskrat man · Post by **muskrat man** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 6:14 am

Hey Bill,
Handles are very possible. I think I have some cocobolo out in the shop that may look correct on the remington. Email me and we can work out the specifics.

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:03 pm

CCBill;

Case could put new handles on the 3254...and they might even do it for free under warranty since the originals disintegrated. But they would at worst do it for a modest fee.

Queen I believe will refurbish any of their older knives for a modest fee or for no cost.

BTW, you mention Maize headers - I have always wondered what the function of the "maize" knife was....and what brands have you seen? I know of Case and Remington.

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Mon Dec 25, 2006 8:09 pm

Thanks, knifeaholic...
As for maize headers, at one time, maize, otherwise known as milo, grew with the heads hanging DOWN. The farm machinery of the day, was not particularly effective at harvesting it, so a lot of the harvest was done by hand and the maize header blade was born. Scientific advances being what they are, somebody figured out how to get the heads to grow UP. That way, farm machinery was more effective at harvest time.
In addition to Case and Remington, I also have several Robeson's and a really nice Winchester.
I don't know who all made them, but I'm sure there were quite a few cutleries that did.
I am pretty much limited to what I can find, sitting in this chair. I am disabled and don't have the privelege of going to flea markets(except the local one) and have only been to 1 gun show in the past 15 years. Oh, well. I still have a great life. No complaints.
I may just try sending the 2 trappers back to their factories. I'm not really picky about handle material on them and would like something other than the yellow. I dunno.
...CCBill...

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:14 pm

CCBill:

So was the maize header knife used for cutting ears of corn off of the stalk?

And if you like cotton samplers, I saw a nice Schatt & Morgan with wood handles in a local antique shop....seemed pricey to me at $175 but if someone collects the pattern, may be a reasonable price.

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:01 pm

I was born in the Texas panhandle. There is a lot of farming done in that area. One of the main crops, is Grain Sorghum also known as Maize or Milo. In America, it is used, primarily, as a livestock feed. In some other countries, it is eaten by people. .
At one time, the heads of the plant(that contain the seeds), bent over and grew DOWN. Farm machinery was in it's infancy and nobody could figure out how to harvest it, mechanically. People walked through the fields and cut the heads off, by hand. I'm sure that a lot of other types of knives, cutters, etc. were used, but what we know as the maize header was used.
At some point, somebody came along with the "smarts", to make the heads grow UP and made it easier to harvest, mechanically.
If you check out a bag of bird food at the store, that has a mixture of several type of grain in it, milo, maize, grain sorghum, is about the size of a BB and is a reddish-brown color. Hope this helps.
...CCBill...

CCBill · Post by **CCBill** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 6:29 pm

Here's a couple of different maize header blades. These are in very good condition and haven't been used much. A lot of people think they are hawkbills that have been ground down. Not so.
Remington on the left and Winchester.
...CCBill...

knifeaholic · Post by **knifeaholic** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 8:07 pm

Thanks for the interesting info, CCBill. I always enjoy hearing about the actual uses of different interesting knife patterns. I wonder why that particular blade shape was used for the maize knife.

remington collector · Post by **remington collector** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 1:45 pm

Heres another Remington maize knife.

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I need some help, please.

I need some help, please.

Remington and Winchester maize headers.