Counterfeits

[Ratchet]

Just curious on a few things about counterfeiters, do they actually make that much money on e-bay?
and
if it turns out that a knife is a counterfeit on e-bay, is there any justice to the seller? i.e., does e-bay suspend them or tag them as a bad seller or is it just buyer beware?

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[olderdogs1]

From following this forum I have seen a lot of counterfeits sell in the hundreds of dollars to unsuspecting buyers. I guess the problem would be proving a knife was counterfeit without actually being able to inspect it in person. Also I doubt Ebay would have anyone qualified to run interference on a situation like that.
I believe the feedback system Ebay has would be the only place one could address it on Ebay. Once a seller has a lot of negative feedback buyers are more wary of doing business with that ebayer. Knowledgable people on this forum have done a lot to warn people about sellers also. Also letting the seller know that he has a counterfeit. Some sellers just don't know. Some do and try to pull it off anyway. Nothing is perfect. I hope this helps some. It is a shame that some sellers will do or say anything for a dollar.

[Kiferbros]

When dealing with e-bay I tend to only purchase with paypal and wit ha credit card where there is protection if ripped of or swindled. paypal will vigorously pursue fraudulent claims as will e-bay. the problem is knowing what exactly to do and how to follow thru. if you suspect you have purchased a bogus knife you will have several options and several routs to take this may or may not be the one you need or choose.

1. have the knife inspected by a reliable source and the results documented, the more you can show that it is a counterfeit the better.

2 contact the seller and try to resolve.

3 if paypal was used or credit card was used contact and follow thru with them and finally contact e-bay.

4 check into other legal remedies, local charges if seller is within reasonable distance, federal (mail fraud) it has to be shipped, state attorney general ECT.

So there are way to get justice or at least your money back but you need to be careful. Investigate and know the system before using it helps, but the best solution is to not get caught by a counterfeiter, if you not sure before you bid ask someone more knowledgeable the help and advise is out there look for it or ask for it and someone will try to help….I hope this helps, good luck

[merlechris]

If the item is counterfeit, definitely file with eBay. However unless you paid with PayPal, you will probably never see a dime. PayPal will require that you obtain an independent inspection/appraisal of the item in question, and after receiving the "appraisal," PayPal will make their decision. The appraisal only needs to be on some type of letterhead, although I have heard that they will sometimes attempt to validate the appraisor. I didn't find it too unreasonable for getting a refund. Of course, by this time the appropriate feedback has probably already been left. I went this route once on an item that was listed as "new in box" but had obviously been used. A local jewelry store appraised the item as used, and I got my refund. There is certainly a potential avenue for recourse if a knife turns out to be counterfeit, and the seller decides against giving you a refund.