Pyremite Pattern Mystery

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Out of my pyremite collection I have 3 knives that I wonder about.
The 1st is a silver pyremite KA-BAR single blade. I have heard it called a "coke bottle melon tester" ?
The 2nd is a brown/green pyremite Diamond Edge moose. I have seen one reference in a book calling it an "oval" or "milton" ?
The 3rd is a green pyremite Hartford cutlery congress. I call this pattern a "cattle congress" It has a left hand clip point master blade. A well worn sheepsfoot (or pen) blade. A slightly sharpened spey blade. And a blued matchstriker pull leather punch. I became enamored with this cattle congress and started to collect them. (yeah right) I am still looking for the second one- am I wrong in identifying any of these knives as I have?
I am greatful for the wisdom and knowledge of the fellow collectors on this forum. thank you. Mike.

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Some beautiful knives you have there! I agree with the “coke bottle” and “Congress” descriptions. The other shape I have heard called an “oval” pattern.

The knives all appear to have celluloid covers. When I hear “pyremite” I think of Remington knives. Pyremite was a name Remington used to describe their celluloid, and it appears in Remington catalogs. Not sure if it was a Remington trade name, but if you’re looking for descriptive terms to search for knives I’d recommend using celluloid rather than pyremite, because using pyremite will possibly steer search results to Remington knives.

Last but not least although you didn’t ask, I’d be concerned with storing celluloids together, and especially enclosed in a case like the one in your pictures. Celluloid is notoriously unstable and if one goes into outgassing mode it can, and likely will, damage any others enclosed with it. Don’t ask how I know. I don’t want to start yet another thread about celluloid outgassing so if you’re interested just do a search here on AAPK for outgassing, celluloid, etc to find storage recommendations and horror stories.

Ken

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Some beautiful knives you have there! I agree with the “coke bottle” and “Congress” descriptions. The other shape I have heard called an “oval” pattern.

The knives all appear to have celluloid covers. When I hear “pyremite” I think of Remington knives. Pyremite was a name Remington used to describe their celluloid, and it appears in Remington catalogs. Not sure if it was a Remington trade name, but if you’re looking for descriptive terms to search for knives I’d recommend using celluloid rather than pyremite, because using pyremite will possibly steer search results to Remington knives.

Last but not least although you didn’t ask, I’d be concerned with storing celluloids together, and especially enclosed in a case like the one in your pictures. Celluloid is notoriously unstable and if one goes into outgassing mode it can, and likely will, damage any others enclosed with it. Don’t ask how I know. I don’t want to start yet another thread about celluloid outgassing so if you’re interested just do a search here on AAPK for outgassing, celluloid, etc to find storage recommendations and horror stories.

Ken

AMEN! And also, don't ask how I know.

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Out of my pyremite collection I have 3 knives that I wonder about.
The 1st is a silver pyremite KA-BAR single blade. I have heard it called a "coke bottle melon tester" ?
The 2nd is a brown/green pyremite Diamond Edge moose. I have seen one reference in a book calling it an "oval" or "milton" ?
The 3rd is a green pyremite Hartford cutlery congress. I call this pattern a "cattle congress" It has a left hand clip point master blade. A well worn sheepsfoot (or pen) blade. A slightly sharpened spey blade. And a blued matchstriker pull leather punch. I became enamored with this cattle congress and started to collect them. (yeah right) I am still looking for the second one- am I wrong in identifying any of these knives as I have?
I am greatful for the wisdom and knowledge of the fellow collectors on this forum. thank you. Mike.

The Diamond Edge is called a "Butterbean"