Two "very old" pocket knives. Would appreciate any thoughts.

[Mike54circ+]

These two old knives have been in a box in my family for at least 70 years. My mother was an antique/junk collector and I really don't have any idea where they came from. The larger knife with the tools has no markings that I can find. The single blade knife has what I think is, 17 ANDI, on the blade but more lettering might've been worn off. The single blade knife seems ancient. The handle appears to be wood with brass rivets.
Any comments or knowledge would be appreciated. Thanks for looking.

[Mumbleypeg]

The knife in the top 3 pictures is a pattern called Navaja, a very old design believed to have origins in moorish Spain. The pattern has spread to most regions of the world especially where there is any Spanish cultural influence. Lots of them and variations of the pattern are made in France as well as Spain. The “ANDI” may refer to Andilusia which is a Provence in southern Spain.

Welcome to AAPK.

Ken

[Mike54circ+]

Thank you Ken for your knowledge. I now have a start to investigate further. All the best, Mike

[wbldon]

The "tool" on the second knife appears to be a wrench for removing the nipple on a Muzzle Loading rifle or pistol. The nipple is what you would place a cap on to fire the gun. These needed to be removed periodically to clean them or replace them as they would get mushroomed out from the hammer hitting the cap.

Don

[C-WADE7]

The "tool" on the second knife appears to be a wrench for removing the nipple on a Muzzle Loading rifle or pistol. The nipple is what you would place a cap on to fire the gun. These needed to be removed periodically to clean them or replace them as they would get mushroomed out from the hammer hitting the cap.

Don

I felt like that was a wrench of some sort but never thought of that, thank you for the info!