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This knife found it's way to me. It was in a box of junk at an auction. I cleaned some of the bad rust off the blades. The handles aren't in too bad of shape. I liked the ornate insets on the front handle. The small blade has no markings. The large blade says "Rather & Co." on the front, and on the rear has something written I can't make out, and "Slovakia" under that.

Does anyone recognize what the word over Slovakia could say?

The knife is pretty neat sleeveboard shape. Measures 3 3/8 inch closed. I'm guessing it's from the 1930-1950 age range somewhere.
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I was able to find a few similar looking knives online, using a reverse image search, however none of them are the same brand.

First one is listed as Westfield MFG Germany measures 2 1/2 inch.

2nd one is United Cutlery stamped Austria. The listing said it was 1901-1920 range.

3rd one is again United Cutlery, Austria. They say it is horn handles. 1908-1922.
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Rookie wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:19 pm This.....
Here are two different tang stamps on two of my knives.
But, they are NOT Rather & Cᴏ̲
Yours "may" have been similar to one of them. ::shrug::
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Rookie wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:19 pm This knife found it's way to me. It was in a box of junk at an auction. I cleaned some of the bad rust off the blades. The handles aren't in too bad of shape. I liked the ornate insets on the front handle. The small blade has no markings. The large blade says "Rather & Co." on the front, and on the rear has something written I can't make out, and "Slovakia" under that.

Does anyone recognize what the word over Slovakia could say?

The knife is pretty neat sleeveboard shape. Measures 3 3/8 inch closed. I'm guessing it's from the 1930-1950 age range somewhere.
Here’s my similar, maybe identical Rather & Co. pen knife. Can’t read the the pile side stamp on it either. ::shrug::

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New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:30 pm
Rookie wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:19 pm This.....
Here are two different tang stamps on two of my knives.
But, they are NOT Rather & Cᴏ̲
Yours "may" have been similar to one of them. ::shrug::
I can make out a few letters, I don't think it says Czecho but it is extremely difficult to make out. I had my daughter and wife both spend a lot of time trying to decipher it, and in the end we all gave up trying. :D
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Rookie wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:19 pm This knife found it's way to me. It was in a box of junk at an auction. I cleaned some of the bad rust off the blades. The handles aren't in too bad of shape. I liked the ornate insets on the front handle. The small blade has no markings. The large blade says "Rather & Co." on the front, and on the rear has something written I can't make out, and "Slovakia" under that.

Does anyone recognize what the word over Slovakia could say?

The knife is pretty neat sleeveboard shape. Measures 3 3/8 inch closed. I'm guessing it's from the 1930-1950 age range somewhere.
Here’s my similar, maybe identical Rather & Co. pen knife. Can’t read the the pile side stamp on it either. ::shrug::

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Amazing Ken that we have twin knives from that long ago. It does look to be an exact match of mine.
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Mumbleypeg wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:16 pm
Rookie wrote: Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:19 pm This knife found it's way to me. It was in a box of junk at an auction. I cleaned some of the bad rust off the blades. The handles aren't in too bad of shape. I liked the ornate insets on the front handle. The small blade has no markings. The large blade says "Rather & Co." on the front, and on the rear has something written I can't make out, and "Slovakia" under that.

Does anyone recognize what the word over Slovakia could say?

The knife is pretty neat sleeveboard shape. Measures 3 3/8 inch closed. I'm guessing it's from the 1930-1950 age range somewhere.
Here’s my similar, maybe identical Rather & Co. pen knife. Can’t read the the pile side stamp on it either. ::shrug::

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Is the handle black cow horn? With mine I thought it was just a dark wood with a lot of grain striations.
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It's wood. Mine has some striping in it, sorta like zabrawood.

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Both knives have horn handles.
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Miller Bro's wrote: Mon Apr 21, 2025 9:38 pm Both knives have horn handles.
Thanks. Sometimes with these very old knives it is very hard to tell.
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Have you guys seen this one here on AAPK?
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... t_id=98524

This one is an A.W. Wadsworth & Son model. Looks very close to both of yours...makes me wonder if the style/pattern wasn't under license to several manufacturers. If we keep digging, we'll probably find some made by Gurlach as well. (Yea...I had to drop a Polish name in there!)
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Thanks Lars. That’s interesting. Confirms Wadsworth is likely the maker of the two shown in this thread. Pretty sure mine is not celluloid - I thought it is wood but Dimitri says it is horn, and he’s usually right.

I have several other Rathers, none of which have any other similar stamp or COO markings, but I have long suspected European origin. They may be Wadsworth also, but they don’t say so, and having no COO leads me to believe they are likely older. ::shrug::

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Lars0729 wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:34 am Have you guys seen this one here on AAPK?
https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... t_id=98524

This one is an A.W. Wadsworth & Son model. Looks very close to both of yours...makes me wonder if the style/pattern wasn't under license to several manufacturers. If we keep digging, we'll probably find some made by Gurlach as well. (Yea...I had to drop a Polish name in there!)
Thank you, no I had not saw that one on the AAPK store. Very interesting.
Mumbleypeg wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:52 am Thanks Lars. That’s interesting. Confirms Wadsworth is likely the maker of the two shown in this thread. Pretty sure mine is not celluloid - I thought it is wood but Dimitri says it is horn, and he’s usually right.

I have several other Rathers, none of which have any other similar stamp or COO markings, but I have long suspected European origin. They may be Wadsworth also, but they don’t say so, and having no COO leads me to believe they are likely older. ::shrug::

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I showed it on BF as well, and someone commented that they have saw a few others, but never with the "Slovakia" stamp on the blade. Apparently there must be a variety of them floating around out there.
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Here's my shadow pattern horn handled United Cutlery Austria inlaid folder with a cute hawkbill , to open wine bottles.
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wlf wrote: Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:04 pm Here's my shadow pattern horn handled United Cutlery Austria inlaid folder with a cute hawkbill , to open wine bottles.
Great looking knife Lyle. I'd have liked to been around 80 years ago and got a tour of the factory that was making these knives.
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