Premier Lifetime knives. Are these post 1951?

[Ittsukan]

The Premier Cutlery thread seems to have run its course so I'm posting a question here.
Recently acquired two Premier Lifeime knives. A German K1 Stockman with a spiral punch and a German H73 fixed hunter with a sheath.
How do I go about dating these? I know Premier was in business importing knives from 1922 to 1951 and the brand was sold off to someone else later. How do I tell what time frome these are from?
Thanks

[Ittsukan]

Forgot I had this one. Premier K-425 Japan friction folder. This one I assume is from sometime after the brand was sold in the 80s.

[Mumbleypeg]

The prior Premier Lifetime thread may have “run its course” as you put it, but the information there is as good as you’re likely to find. viewtopic.php?t=42187 If you have more or different evidence please share it. The company was a jobber, meaning they did not manufacture knives themselves but contracted others to make them with the Premier name stamped on them. I’ve accumulated a number of them of various patterns, but since the company doesn’t seem to have changed the stamps in any orderly pattern, like many companies it’s not possible to estimate dates when the knives were made.

I’ve been on the lookout several years for old catalogs, advertisements, or evidence but so far have not been able to find anything. As you know most references say the company ceased to operate in the 1950s but there are anecdotal reports from folks saying they recall seeing Premier knives for sale after that time.

Those stamped “Japan” were likely post-WWII. I’d also guess those marked “stainless” to be post-WWII. That is just based on general knowledge of history, not on any documentation.

Ken

[Ittsukan]

The prior Premier Lifetime thread may have “run its course” as you put it, but the information there is as good as you’re likely to find. viewtopic.php?t=42187 If you have more or different evidence please share it. The company was a jobber, meaning they did not manufacture knives themselves but contracted others to make them with the Premier name stamped on them. I’ve accumulated a number of them of various patterns, but since the company doesn’t seem to have changed the stamps in any orderly pattern, like many companies it’s not possible to estimate dates when the knives were made.

I’ve been on the lookout several years for old catalogs, advertisements, or evidence but so far have not been able to find anything. As you know most references say the company ceased to operate in the 1950s but there are anecdotal reports from folks saying they recall seeing Premier knives for sale after that time.

Those stamped “Japan” were likely post-WWII. I’d also guess those marked “stainless” to be post-WWII. That is just based on general knowledge of history, not on any documentation.

Ken

Thanks for the reply. I only meant the thread had been inactive for over a year. I understand that these discussions can sometimes just taper off with no conclusion. Just the nature of discussions in forums.
That being said, I have read through it and it is a fantastic thread with lots of interesting information. Much contributed by you. I thank you for that.
I guess the company is a bit of a mystery as I haven't been able to find much about it either. It's frustrating not being able to find info on knives you have.
What do you think of the ones shown. I kind of think the "K" model designation is a modern, post the 1950s shutdown and the "H" model designation may be pre. Or maybe the omission of "Lifetime" is a pre/post shutdown thing. IDK.
Now I have to go through through that thread again to see if there is any mention of something like that.
Thanks again for the info.