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This is the Bonsa that I sold a while back. It was a very solidly built piece of functional art. The soccer ball stamp was on one of the tools I believe. This is the only picture I have. I assumed this one to be from the 30's or 40's ::shrug::

Does that seem accurate to you?

The steel handled one you have there is super cool. I like old pen and fob knives. I usually carry two knives, a big and a little, big for functionality and the little for a cool non-threatening conversation piece. Even thought about getting a pocket watch to anchor the fob knives ::nod::
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ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:40 pm This is the Bonsa that I sold a while back. It was a very solidly built piece of functional art. The soccer ball stamp was on one of the tools I believe. This is the only picture I have. I assumed this one to be from the 30's or 40's ::shrug::

Does that seem accurate to you?

The steel handled one you have there is super cool. I like old pen and fob knives. I usually carry two knives, a big and a little, big for functionality and the little for a cool non-threatening conversation piece. Even thought about getting a pocket watch to anchor the fob knives ::nod::
Great knife! To be honest, dating Solingen knives is often very difficult. The Bonsa brand was registered in 1902. This is the exact starting point. Böntgen & Sabin closed in 1983. So your knife is made in 1902-1983. Based on my observations, I can only say that the corkscrew is an old model. The knife was probably made before the 60s of the 19th century.
But I could be wrong, let knowledgeable people correct me if I'm wrong.
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Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:02 pm
ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:40 pm This is the Bonsa that I sold a while back. It was a very solidly built piece of functional art. The soccer ball stamp was on one of the tools I believe. This is the only picture I have. I assumed this one to be from the 30's or 40's ::shrug::

Does that seem accurate to you?

The steel handled one you have there is super cool. I like old pen and fob knives. I usually carry two knives, a big and a little, big for functionality and the little for a cool non-threatening conversation piece. Even thought about getting a pocket watch to anchor the fob knives ::nod::
Great knife! To be honest, dating Solingen knives is often very difficult. The Bonsa brand was registered in 1902. This is the exact starting point. Böntgen & Sabin closed in 1983. So your knife is made in 1902-1983. Based on my observations, I can only say that the corkscrew is an old model. The knife was probably made before the 60s of the 19th century.
But I could be wrong, let knowledgeable people correct me if I'm wrong.
You're the knowledgeable one my dude ::tu::
::nod:: https://newlifeknives.etsy.com ::nod::

That's my Etsy store where I sell old knives and sometimes handmade knife accessories to support my knife habbit. Thanks for looking my friend. ::tu::
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ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:20 pm
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 2:02 pm
ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:40 pm This is the Bonsa that I sold a while back. It was a very solidly built piece of functional art. The soccer ball stamp was on one of the tools I believe. This is the only picture I have. I assumed this one to be from the 30's or 40's ::shrug::

Does that seem accurate to you?

The steel handled one you have there is super cool. I like old pen and fob knives. I usually carry two knives, a big and a little, big for functionality and the little for a cool non-threatening conversation piece. Even thought about getting a pocket watch to anchor the fob knives ::nod::
Great knife! To be honest, dating Solingen knives is often very difficult. The Bonsa brand was registered in 1902. This is the exact starting point. Böntgen & Sabin closed in 1983. So your knife is made in 1902-1983. Based on my observations, I can only say that the corkscrew is an old model. The knife was probably made before the 60s of the 19th century.
But I could be wrong, let knowledgeable people correct me if I'm wrong.
You're the knowledgeable one my dude ::tu::
No, I’m not much different from the average knife collector! 8)
Best regards, Georgiy Velchev.
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ThatWeirdKnifeGuy wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 1:40 pm This is the Bonsa that I sold a while back. It was a very solidly built piece of functional art. The soccer ball stamp was on one of the tools I believe. This is the only picture I have. I assumed this one to be from the 30's or 40's ::shrug::

Does that seem accurate to you?

The steel handled one you have there is super cool. I like old pen and fob knives. I usually carry two knives, a big and a little, big for functionality and the little for a cool non-threatening conversation piece. Even thought about getting a pocket watch to anchor the fob knives ::nod::
But I use ordinary Chinese knives every day. I like that you can easily change a dull blade and replace it with a new one!
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Great knives, great pictures, great information, Georgiy, you're gonna fit right in here, thanks! ::handshake::
Many members very much crave the kind of information you are posting, so please continue since you certainly seem to know your facts and details.
Me, I'm more simple, if I like how a knife looks and it's not junk I buy it regardless of it's origins, maker, or any other reasons that are important to collectors/accumulators, hence my knives are a potpourri of styles and brands, with many quite unusual models that I'm very proud of.
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Madmarco wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 3:18 pm Great knives, great pictures, great information, Georgiy, you're gonna fit right in here, thanks! ::handshake::
Many members very much crave the kind of information you are posting, so please continue since you certainly seem to know your facts and details.
Me, I'm more simple, if I like how a knife looks and it's not junk I buy it regardless of it's origins, maker, or any other reasons that are important to collectors/accumulators, hence my knives are a potpourri of styles and brands, with many quite unusual models that I'm very proud of.
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Thank you. I regret that I did not participate in discussions here earlier! I am very pleased with the warm welcome of my humble person AAPK! ::handshake::
I also choose knives regardless of the country of manufacture, and not depending on the manufacturer or brand. The main thing is that the knife is of high quality! 8)
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Hello Georgiy! Do you think the scissor in one of the pictures you posted is the same as this?
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TLM845 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:07 pm Hello Georgiy! Do you think the scissor in one of the pictures you posted is the same as this?
Hello!
The scissors you showed are similar to those I published earlier. There are indeed a lot of common details. However, the scissors you showed have a knife and a nail file sticking out of the handles.
Perhaps these scissors were also made by Böntgen & Sabin, but I cannot guarantee this. Do you have any additional photos, preferably with stamps? ::hmm::
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I have a scissors and a knife.

Don't have pics of the knife.
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Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am
TLM845 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:07 pm Hello Georgiy! Do you think the scissor in one of the pictures you posted is the same as this?
Hello!
The scissors you showed are similar to those I published earlier. There are indeed a lot of common details. However, the scissors you showed have a knife and a nail file sticking out of the handles.
Perhaps these scissors were also made by Böntgen & Sabin, but I cannot guarantee this. Do you have any additional photos, preferably with stamps? ::hmm::
No stamps. No logo. Nothing. I attached another photo from the original ebay post.
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Miller Bro's wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 5:53 pm I have a scissors and a knife.

Don't have pics of the knife.
Excellent copy! ::tu::
I had the opportunity to buy Böntgen & Sabin scissors. Only the mother-of-pearl scales had cracks. This did not suit me and I did not buy these scissors.
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TLM845 wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 8:01 pm
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Sat Jun 15, 2024 7:33 am
TLM845 wrote: Fri Jun 14, 2024 10:07 pm Hello Georgiy! Do you think the scissor in one of the pictures you posted is the same as this?
Hello!
The scissors you showed are similar to those I published earlier. There are indeed a lot of common details. However, the scissors you showed have a knife and a nail file sticking out of the handles.
Perhaps these scissors were also made by Böntgen & Sabin, but I cannot guarantee this. Do you have any additional photos, preferably with stamps? ::hmm::
No stamps. No logo. Nothing. I attached another photo from the original ebay post.
There is a slight chance that these scissors are made by Böntgen & Sabin. This manufacturer could simply not put his stamp on the export product. This happened if, for example, the German name of a brand did not sound correctly in English.
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I was thinking the same. They look like they were made by Bontgen and sabin? How old do you think these scissors are?
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Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:31 am Second knife Böntgen & Sabin Solingen
I have had a few of the Finnish "Hackman knives" that are very similar to the "Balisong" type of knife, however the light weight of the handles do lend to flipping the knife around.
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Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:37 pm Hello to all who have looked into this topic. I recently came across two knives that I'm considering purchasing. :)
The first knife is stamped "F.*A.G." and "Rostfrei". I looked for information about its manufacturer, but I could not find anything definite. There are two supposed manufacturers with the name "FAG":
1. Friedrich August Goebel;
It is possible that your FAG knife is Italian made? ::shrug:: I have several similar knives all made in Italy that resemble that FAG ::hmm:: So I would say (just a wild guess) that your FAG was (1. German, (2. Swiss, (3. Italian ... Just a guess about that FAG .... ::shrug::
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GSPTOPDOG wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 10:02 pm
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 4:37 pm Hello to all who have looked into this topic. I recently came across two knives that I'm considering purchasing. :)
The first knife is stamped "F.*A.G." and "Rostfrei". I looked for information about its manufacturer, but I could not find anything definite. There are two supposed manufacturers with the name "FAG":
1. Friedrich August Goebel;
It is possible that your FAG knife is Italian made? ::shrug:: I have several similar knives all made in Italy that resemble that FAG ::hmm:: So I would say (just a wild guess) that your FAG was (1. German, (2. Swiss, (3. Italian ... Just a guess about that FAG .... ::shrug::
Interesting thoughts about Italy. But I had a conversation with a knife collector living in Germany. He clearly defined who the manufacturer of my knife is.
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GSPTOPDOG wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:58 pm
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:31 am Second knife Böntgen & Sabin Solingen
I have had a few of the Finnish "Hackman knives" that are very similar to the "Balisong" type of knife, however the light weight of the handles do lend to flipping the knife around.
It is likely that your Finnish butterfly knife was used fishing.
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Yep, I agree Georgiy, every place I've seen those knives they've been described as "Fish" knives.
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Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:57 pm
GSPTOPDOG wrote: Sun Jun 16, 2024 9:58 pm
Georgiy_Velchev wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:31 am Second knife Böntgen & Sabin Solingen
It is likely that your Finnish butterfly knife was used fishing.
Thanks for the information! ::tu::
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Madmarco wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:21 am Yep, I agree Georgiy, every place I've seen those knives they've been described as "Fish" knives.
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There are also suggestions that these were sailors' knives. Such a knife did not have sharp protruding edges that could damage, for example, an inflatable boat. If you dig even deeper, namely in the 17th and 18th centuries, such butterfly knives protected powder kegs from an accidentally struck spark. Whether this is true or not is now very difficult to judge. Now, if only a scientific historical work appeared devoted to the study of the appearance and use of butterfly knives in the distant past... ::shrug::
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