EC Simmons punch blade?

[Treasure Trawler]

Hey Fellas, I found this EC Simmons today. Was the knife made this way or did someone grind it down. Punch seems legit. Any information?

[1967redrider]

Give 'er the old #2 pencil spa and see what's under the crud.

[Treasure Trawler]

[1967redrider]

Any pattern number on this side?

[Ridgegrass]

Barry, Get a good pic from the tip end. It could be just a modified punch or an old pen blade reworked. The round shape of the tang is like a pen blade whereas a punch blade usually has pointed "kick". If it's an original, unaltered blade, someone here should recognize it or have a Simmons catalog. John.

[Treasure Trawler]

[Ridgegrass]

Not much info Barry? Guess nobody recognizes it. John

[Mumbleypeg]

Interesting find. Don’t recall ever seeing a punch/awl like that. Typesetters blades and pipe cleaners are similar but different. Hope someone will recognize what its purpose was. Where’s Dimitri?

Ken

[Ridgegrass]

Ken, Do you have a typesetter's example? I've not seen one but I'd like to. I have a knife with a strange pick too; haven't been able to I D it for sure.
Thanks, John

[danno50]

Here are some pics (from the internet) of a two different punch blades.

[danno50]

Here are a couple of poor pictures of the punch on a Simmons era Keen Kutter scout. I believe this is a pre 1923 knife.

[Mumbleypeg]

Ken, Do you have a typesetter's example? I've not seen one but I'd like to. I have a knife with a strange pick too; haven't been able to I D it for sure.
Thanks, John

Sadly I don’t have any with the typesetter’s blade. I’ve bid on a few but apparently I’m too cheap to win one.

There’s a good example above in Dan’s post. Those I recall were made by Charles Langbein and I believe Schrade made some also. A search here for Langbein will find some beauties. Like this one from Joe:
viewtopic.php?p=708573#p708573

Ken

[Ridgegrass]

Thanks Ken. I do remember seeing that type of blade. It appears to have more shoulder than the one Treasure Trawler posted. Maybe his is Simmons '' version or not. I'll get a hands on look at it, we live near each other. Interesting.

John

[Ridgegrass]

Thanks Ken. I do remember seeing that type of blade. It appears to have more shoulder than the one Treasure Trawler posted. Maybe his is Simmons '' version or not. I'll get a hands on look at it, we live near each other. Interesting.

John

[ScoutKnives]

Maybe you can find your answer on this thread ?

viewtopic.php?t=50305&hilit=Punch+blades

[Ridgegrass]

Thanks Danno and Scout. After seeing the Simmons scout punch and reviewing the "Knives with Punches" thread I'm leaning toward it being a ground down secondary blade, partly because the "Kick" on most punch blades is a pronounced angle and this one is a rounded shoulder. It doesn't look like a knife that would have a pipe stem cleaner and it looks too thin to be for hard applications. Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? J.O'.

[peanut740]

Thanks Danno and Scout. After seeing the Simmons scout punch and reviewing the "Knives with Punches" thread I'm leaning toward it being a ground down secondary blade, partly because the "Kick" on most punch blades is a pronounced angle and this one is a rounded shoulder. It doesn't look like a knife that would have a pipe stem cleaner and it looks too thin to be for hard applications. Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? J.O'.

I believe you are correct,looks like a ground down punch blade .

[Ridgegrass]

I like when someone agrees with me. It happens so little. J.O'.

[peanut740]

I like when someone agrees with me. It happens so little. J.O'.

[Treasure Trawler]

Thanks Fellas! Anyone have an example of this EC and what this should have looked like?

[eveled]

Maybe some old feller had a special need and made himself a tool ??? J.O'.

That was my first thought.