The All Scout Knives Thread

This forum is dedicated to the discussion and display of old knives. The rich history of all the many companies that made them through the early years will be found here as well as many fine examples of the cutlers art. Share pictures of your old knives and your knowledge here!
Post Reply
User avatar
philco
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 15538
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:32 pm
Location: Kentucky (Wildcat Country)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by philco »

My theory is that eagle turns his head from time to time to avoid getting a crick in his neck……
Yeah, that’s the ticket. 😎
Phil
AAPK Administrator

Jesus died for you. Are you living for Him?

"Buy More Ammo!"
Johnnie Fain 1949-2009
User avatar
New_Windsor_NY
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 14014
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:50 pm
Location: I'm On The Far Right On The Left Coast In Commiefornia

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by New_Windsor_NY »

bestgear wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:37 pm I'm.....
Tom, I noticed one more minor difference between the two shields.
The shield on the left, "BE PREPARED"
The shield on the right, "BEPREPARED"
The picture was originally posted by bestgear (Tom).
Attachments
This picture was originally posted by bestgear (Tom).
This picture was originally posted by bestgear (Tom).
image.jpeg (68.85 KiB) Viewed 6115 times
Kid: "Wish we had time to bury them fellas."
Josey Wales: "To hell with them fellas. Buzzards got to eat, same as worms."
Clint Eastwood-The Outlaw Josey Wales

Skip
User avatar
bestgear
Silver Tier
Silver Tier
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm
Location: Oak Island NC
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by bestgear »

New_Windsor_NY wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:25 pm The shield on the left, "BE PREPARED"
The shield on the right, "BEPREPARED"
I agree Skip plus the eagle looking right looks more like a seagull ::facepalm::
Tom
AAPK Administrator
https://www.tcjr-leatherworks.com
User avatar
bestgear
Silver Tier
Silver Tier
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm
Location: Oak Island NC
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by bestgear »

Ridgegrass wrote: Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:25 pm Turns out that Girl Scout Chow Kit was legit. Thanks Ronfish and all. J.O
There's one for sale in our AAPK Stores: https://www.allaboutpocketknives.com/ca ... -kit-w-box with the original box!! ::nod::
Tom
AAPK Administrator
https://www.tcjr-leatherworks.com
User avatar
ronfish
Bronze Tier
Bronze Tier
Posts: 176
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:37 am
Location: Charlotte, NC

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by ronfish »

Thanks Tom , you have definitely given us all a lot to consider and noodle on. I love the correlation with the actual scout patches and ranks that you shared. I too, have noticed that the eagle points left or right on various versions, and Kerr was good about highlighting this on the examples that he reviewed.
Ron

WARNING: Knife Addiction in Progress.
User avatar
ronfish
Bronze Tier
Bronze Tier
Posts: 176
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:37 am
Location: Charlotte, NC

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by ronfish »

philco wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:20 pm My theory is that eagle turns his head from time to time to avoid getting a crick in his neck……
Yeah, that’s the ticket. 😎
I was also thinking it might depend on which side of the river the eagle is on when fishing. ::hmm::
Ron

WARNING: Knife Addiction in Progress.
Vit_213
Posts: 1166
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:57 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Vit_213 »

Thanks to Tom and others who have discussed these issues. Although I did not receive a specific answer, I learned a lot. Perhaps one of the presented versions is close to the truth (I especially liked the version by Philco :mrgreen: ).
And to complete the topic, the last question - were there other models of BSA Ulster knives with an eagle facing the other way, besides the 1502?
User avatar
ronfish
Bronze Tier
Bronze Tier
Posts: 176
Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2014 1:37 am
Location: Charlotte, NC

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by ronfish »

Here are 10 examples for this discussion and some eye candy for my fellow addicts. ::super_happy:: 9 of the Eagles on the shields look left, and only one looks to the right. The one that looks to the right is an Ulster Dwight Divine and sons version. That is in contrast to another in the set with boxes that looks left and is also Ulster Dwight Divine and sons! Go figure. ::shrug::
IMG_3921.jpeg
IMG_3925.jpeg
IMG_3922.jpeg
IMG_3923.jpeg
IMG_3924.jpeg
Ron

WARNING: Knife Addiction in Progress.
User avatar
Ridgegrass
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 8120
Joined: Sun Aug 30, 2020 2:04 pm
Location: Ocean City, MD
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Ridgegrass »

Whoa Doggie! Ron, that's a nice flock of eagles! A-1.. ::tu:: J.O'.
User avatar
bestgear
Silver Tier
Silver Tier
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm
Location: Oak Island NC
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by bestgear »

That's quite the eye candy there, Mr. Fish but a sight for sore eyes, thank you! All of my knives are safely tucked away until we settle into our new home next month but it wouldn't matter anyway because there's no way I can call your hand so forget raising the stakes - stunning - what was the original question anyways. ::paranoid::
Tom
AAPK Administrator
https://www.tcjr-leatherworks.com
User avatar
philco
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 15538
Joined: Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:32 pm
Location: Kentucky (Wildcat Country)

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by philco »

::hmm:: Could that be a fish eagle on that marlin spike ? ::woot::

Fantastic group of scouts!
Phil
AAPK Administrator

Jesus died for you. Are you living for Him?

"Buy More Ammo!"
Johnnie Fain 1949-2009
Vit_213
Posts: 1166
Joined: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:57 am
Location: Moscow, Russia

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Vit_213 »

ronfish wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:05 pm Here are 10 examples
Amazing group! ::tu::
Can you add photos of the etching on the blades?
User avatar
OSCAR
Posts: 2276
Joined: Fri May 17, 2019 6:32 pm
Location: Deep South

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by OSCAR »

ronfish wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:05 pm Here are 10 examples for this discussion and some eye candy for my fellow addicts. ::super_happy:: 9 of the Eagles on the shields look left, and only one looks to the right. The one that looks to the right is an Ulster Dwight Divine and sons version. That is in contrast to another in the set with boxes that looks left and is also Ulster Dwight Divine and sons! Go figure. ::shrug::

IMG_3921.jpeg

IMG_3925.jpeg

IMG_3922.jpeg

IMG_3923.jpeg

IMG_3924.jpeg
Ronfish,
An absolutely beautiful collection of scout knives that you have here. While I always liked them, I only have one or two of them now n my collection. Don’t know why I haven’t acquired more but I think it’s because I’ve rarely come across any in the same pristine condition that yours are in.
As working knives, most used ones I’ve come across were in terrible condition. I don’t have the skills (or the patience) to do a proper restoration. You really don’t see many new ones being made today. I’m not familiar with any manufacturers that are currently producing them. If anyone knows of any, please let me know. The best condition scout knife I have is a Camillus steel handled. It’s in perfect condition. Shown along with my other Camillus steel handled knives.
Attachments
CC9D4F4B-E00A-41FF-B5AC-BEC73CB5C591.jpeg
"The Edge...There is no honest way to explain it because the only people who really know where it is are the ones who have gone over.
Richierich3
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun Oct 22, 2023 10:27 pm

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Richierich3 »

Man those are some cool knives. I am a Casexx man. I really like those. Thanks for sharing.
Myron
Posts: 98
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:40 pm

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Myron »

ronfish wrote: Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:05 pm Here are 10 examples for this discussion and some eye candy for my fellow addicts. ::super_happy:: 9 of the Eagles on the shields look left, and only one looks to the right. The one that looks to the right is an Ulster Dwight Divine and sons version. That is in contrast to another in the set with boxes that looks left and is also Ulster Dwight Divine and sons! Go figure. ::shrug::
Holy smokes but those are lovely specimens! And in their original boxes, no less. Congratulations on this amazing collection!
Myron
Posts: 98
Joined: Tue Feb 11, 2020 8:40 pm

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Myron »

It's been a while since this thread got bumped, so I thought I'd bring it up for the upcoming weekend. :) And I will apologize in advance for crappy picture quality; I had foot surgery recently and I'm laid up on crutches and a scooter without access to my light box and good camera.

I have four 4-blade scout-pattern knives from Böker and I was hoping someone might know more about them. The first two are handled in Böker's excellent jigged Delrin product that is difficult to tell from genuine bone. One had a bail (now missing) and one did not. The one without a bail is stamped "INOX" and the other isn't, but I'm pretty sure they're both stainless steel. I think they date to the 1960's, but I'm hoping someone might know definitively.

43B38BE0-371D-48E9-8FCC-34997A9645ED.jpeg
6656810E-0532-4884-B383-F44932D04E5A.jpeg
4C5EC392-A827-402B-9D8C-EFF796839496.jpeg
447D4A2B-AD81-4834-AD6C-1E0F56DBFEEB.jpeg

The other mystery knives are a pair of Böker 940's. They are identical except for the position of the bail on the knife. They are handled with wood scales. Might anyone know when these were produced?

F5C69B45-A57C-41EC-B443-8FA8F8C29652.jpeg
4ED79A87-AB4D-46F1-B02E-5672F6FC9D4C.jpeg

Thanks!

Myron
Lama
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am
Location: Baltimore
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Lama »

I thought I'd revive this thread with an unofficial Boy Scout Knife I can't document anywhere else. The blade is stamped with New York Knife's arm and hammer. The cap lifter is stamped, "New York, Knife Co., Walden." While the punch has "Pat. No. 701,878" stamped on it. The shield says, "Boy Scout." I found what appears to be the same knife with Excelsior on a Boy Scout thread on this site and one stamped Hibbard, Spencer & Bartlett on ScoutKnives.net. Thanks for looking.
IMG_1565.jpeg
IMG_1572.jpeg
IMG_1569.jpeg
IMG_1576.jpeg
IMG_1581.jpeg
Attachments
IMG_1582.jpeg
Michael
ScoutKnives
Posts: 1650
Joined: Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:58 pm
Location: Florida

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by ScoutKnives »

Great knife Lama ,
I’m a huge fan of NYK and unfortunately there is very little documentation on the unofficial NYK scouts .
NYK produced and made them for other company’s like OVB , eagle Philadelphia , wallkill River works and I’m sure a few more .
They also came in a few blade and handle combinations and permanent and removable bails . I have collected over 50 different examples official and unofficial .
Would love to start maybe a separate thread for these if there was any interest .

Mike
Always looking for Mint pre war scout knives
Lama
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 146
Joined: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:11 am
Location: Baltimore
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Lama »

Thanks for the info, Mike. I'd be happy to post unofficial scout knives or this New York Knife pattern as I run across them. This is one I intend to eventually sell as I don't collect this type of knife. I do think it's important to document them before they move on to new owners. Just shoot me a PM if you start a new thread. -Michael
Michael
Thomasg
Posts: 744
Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 8:12 pm
Location: Batesville Arkansas

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Thomasg »

Ulster Girl Scout
Ulster Girl Scout
Ulster Girl Scout
Ulster Girl Scout
Ulster Girl  scout
Ulster Girl scout
User avatar
TPK
Posts: 11017
Joined: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:16 pm
Location: Bayern, Germany
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by TPK »

Recieved a 3-Dot / 1977 Custom Case Scout in the mail this past week. I have always admired knives with file work done on them so now I have one of them for my collection. The closing snap on the main blade is a bit weaker than I'd like for it to be but other than that it's an eye catching piece of American Cutlery. ::nod:: Thanks for looking! ::tu:: :D

Add: The burl wood scales do have tiny screws in them but they look better & smaller in person. The scales are on it tight so that's all that really counts to me anyways. I would't be surprised if they were also glued on in some way. But I'll never really know. :wink:

Maybe I can trade it for a nice Case Tadpol with bone handles some day. ::fc:: Which along with a TC-Barlow, is one of my grail knives. ::nod::
.
Attachments
IMG_20240319_182604_976.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053158.880.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053152.707.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053145.551.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053125.436.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053119.281.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053112.524.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053106.152.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053059.966.jpg
s-l1600 - 2024-03-15T053052.753.jpg
TOM - KGFG - (Knife-Guy-From-Germany)

I believe..., every knife is a soul, looking for a soulmate. :wink:

Weebit-Nano https://www.weebit-nano.com/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weebit_Nano

US - ARMY - COMBAT - ENGINEERS - 1990 - 1993 - God Bless Our Troops!
rjoknife
Posts: 15
Joined: Sat Mar 30, 2024 6:17 pm
Location: Mansfield, MA

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by rjoknife »

Camillus Cub Scout Knife (#1885? 1960's-1970's), Ulster - Dwight Divine & Sons Boy Scout Knife (#1502). They were included in a package deal with something else I was bidding for but they were a pleasant surprise.
Attachments
PXL_20240330_180139938.jpg
PXL_20240330_180151786.jpg
PXL_20240330_180209506.jpg
PXL_20240330_180220051.jpg
User avatar
Miller Bro's
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 13631
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:22 pm
Location: Earth

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by Miller Bro's »

::tu::
AAPK Janitor
369
User avatar
TripleF
Gold Tier
Gold Tier
Posts: 19591
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:42 pm
Location: West Central FL
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by TripleF »

Scored this at a flea market Sunday. Had to share before I post it on the bay.

Cornwall Knife Co.
Attachments
IMG_1553.JPG
IMG_1552.JPG
IMG_1550.JPG
User avatar
bestgear
Silver Tier
Silver Tier
Posts: 6244
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 6:58 pm
Location: Oak Island NC
Contact:

Re: The All Scout Knives Thread

Post by bestgear »

Nice one Scott in that condition, fine score!
Tom
AAPK Administrator
https://www.tcjr-leatherworks.com
Post Reply

Return to “Knife Lore - Traditional Knives From the Old Days”