Old Pruning and Horticultural Knives

[Miller Bro's]

On page 24 of this thread I posted this knife I have, made by Wostenholm , as far as I know, It has a different Design number maybe you could look this one up as well? RD 741343

Steve, posted the advertisement and said it was from the 1930's. I have included that in this post as well.

[wlf]

You all are doing some fine research work. Detectives!! The

[Ridgegrass]

MB: Chart only gives one number so I can't say if it's first or last that year. I would guess last. Your number is 1928 or 1929. I did a search: "British Rd. numbers and dates" and used a Masonic link in that list. Starts with 1884 (#1) and goes through 1995.
That's a great knife too.
Are you a Miller Brothers collector? If so I have a question. Thanks. J.O'.

WLF: I worked in Science for 41 years, really enjoy digging stuff up. .J.O'.

[DM11]

Schrade Cut Co Grafting knife and a Schrade Cut Co Budding, Grafting knife.

[DM11]

New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.

[Waukonda]

New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.

2 good ones!

[DM11]

New York Knife Co and a Waterville Cutlery Co Pruning knives.

2 good ones!

Thank you Ike.

[doglegg]

David, you are on a roll. Great knives.

[DM11]

David, you are on a roll. Great knives.

Thank you Floyd.

[Mason]

Enclosed are two more pocket pruners with secateurs. The left is marked Joseph Rodgers and while a bit different in form, it does have the same secateurs mechanism as Miller Bros' Wostenholm Amgar model. The model on the right is marked "Wade & Butcher" and is the same type as those shown by Ridgegrass and Miller Bros. Interesting to learn from Ridgegrass that the 715810 registration number dates to 1925. In searching through English cutlery patents from 1920 to 1930, it doesn't appears that either the Amgar (or J. Rodgers) or the variations with the 715810 numbers were ever actually patented. There are similar models to these though patented in the late 1800s and early 1900s by J. Watts in England.

[Ridgegrass]

Mason, Great knives! You probably already know, and I found out when researching, the Brits have an "RD" number which is a 'Registered Design". The RD is not always patented. Different from our system. I think I recall the other RD# (AMGAR?) was 1928-29. Lots of fun digging into those knives. J.O'.

[Miller Bro's]

Two prime examples!

[Mason]

Thanks, Ridgegrass and Miller Bros.
I enjoy the information and discussions from you guys and others as much as the knives themselves.
Here is an English W. Saynor knife sitting on a horticulture book from England printed in 1898.
The same model with the same blade stamp is shown on the right page.
The English certainly produced some fine pruning knives.

[DM11]

Wow, that's cool!

[Miller Bro's]

Very nice knife and a great book!

Here's one I recently picked up that looks just like the one in your book

[Mason]

Thanks DM11 and M.B.
That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.

[Miller Bro's]

That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.

Thank you

I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown

[Mason]

That's a wonderful Saynor as well Miller Bros.
Saynor specialized in all forms of pruning knives and other pruning articles.
Enclosed is another Saynor model with some beautiful stag.
The factory paperwork shows some various pruning knives and other items from Saynor.

Thank you

I like that billhead, it has some very interesting items shown

Thanks, the ephemera and other related items are certainly harder to find than the knives themselves, as you well know.
And you have some great miscellanea.

[galvanic1882]

Very nice knives, MB and Mason. Here are 2 I just picked up. Etched Cattaraugus, first one I’ve ever seen and a F.A. Wolff with GARANTIE under the name. Probably German

[Ridgegrass]

Mason: Say "ello" to your first cousin. 4-5/8, Integral, filed and rat-tailed bolsters. Blade stamped SAYNOR, tang stamped "Sheffield, England", reverse tang stamped, "SAYNOR & COOKE & RIDAL" H.Price says c.1840-1868. One of my favorites. Wish the old boy could talk. J.O'.

[Ridgegrass]

Galvanic: That Catt is right out of the catalog. I'm a Catt guy and a Hawkbill collector so that one shakes all my trees! Lucky you. J.O'.

[Ridgegrass]

Something to ponder: If the cutler who made our Saynors Hawks was 30 years old in 1868 when they went out of business, he'd be 183 years old today. Fun to think about that when you're holding that knife. What a true connection to the past! J.O'.

[DM11]

Good ones Galvanic1882 and Ridgegrass!

[DM11]

Queen City and a Queen

[DM11]

Van Camp Hardware, Schrade Cut Co, Utica
Union Cut Co