Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

The Queen Cutlery Company has been manufacturing knives in Titusville Pennsylvania for over 100 years. The company opened its factory in 1902 and continues to produce knives in the same way now as they did in their earliest years.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby ratlesnake75 » Wed May 17, 2017 1:33 pm

That is AWESOME in COLOR,,,Thx
Do you think my knife had a "spear" or Clip master????
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby terryl308 » Wed May 17, 2017 2:29 pm

Here is my latest Queen, no tang stamp and can't read the etching, so I'm guessing it is a 60's vintage large easy open melon tester, 5 1/4" closed with a 4 1/4" blade. Got it on ebay and since I didn't have one I bought it (good enough reason) Imitation winterbottom scales and worn down quite a lot but -----? Terry ::tu::
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby bdev » Wed May 17, 2017 4:37 pm

ratlesnake75 wrote:That is AWESOME in COLOR,,,Thx
Do you think my knife had a "spear" or Clip master????
Kind Regards,
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I believe it had a clip.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby nifbuf » Tue May 23, 2017 6:48 pm

I thought I would add some photos of the Queen City Cigar pattern. All of these knives are from the 1930s. Notice that two are handled in Schatt & Morgan bone which dates them from the early 1930s after Queen bought the Schatt plant including all inventory and parts. One photo shows a Queen City cigar moose and a Schatt & Morgan Gowanda cigar in ebony. I am sure that Queen City used the Schatt dies to make these wonderful old big knives.

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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby bdev » Wed May 24, 2017 12:08 am

nifbuf wrote:I thought I would add some photos of the Queen City Cigar pattern. All of these knives are from the 1930s. Notice that two are handled in Schatt & Morgan bone which dates them from the early 1930s after Queen bought the Schatt plant including all inventory and parts. One photo shows a Queen City cigar moose and a Schatt & Morgan Gowanda cigar in ebony. I am sure that Queen City used the Schatt dies to make these wonderful old big knives.

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Great knives David. Thanks for posting them. You just don't see older Queen equal end patterns that often.

PS....any thoughts on the Queen City Capital letter stamp vs. the script stamp? Were they used interchangeably or did one precede the other?
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby FRJ » Wed May 24, 2017 12:25 am

David, that is a beautiful and impressive collection of old Queens. Good show! ::tu::

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Postby peanut740 » Wed May 24, 2017 1:20 am

David that is some group of knives.A++
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby nifbuf » Wed May 24, 2017 1:44 pm

Regarding the Queen City tang stamps, Fred Fisher of Ohio and Joe Dial of Alabama (both the real knowledgeable Queen collectors) and I discussed this at some length a few years back and based on a number of factors here is what we think is a good estimate: The earlier years at Queen City, 1922 – 1932 they did mostly contract work for jewelry firms in New York and New Jersey. Take a look at this article:
http://www.queencutlery.com/uploads/ESE ... ticle_.pdf
They did do some of their own Queen City knives but it appears that most was contract.
After they acquired the Schatt & Morgan plant and all equipment they closed the Spring St. cutlery and moved everything to the Schatt plant. You can tell this by studying the Queen City knives that were made from the left over Schatt material and dies and noticing that these were most always stamped with the “QUEEN CITY” block lettering. So we think that from about 1933 to the early 1940s that stamp was their primary tang stamp.
Starting in the early 1940s and up until the end of WWII they used the scrip style stamp. That was their stamping during the war on their military production with the only exception being the stamping on the machete. See this article for a little more on that: http://www.queencutlery.com/uploads/Que ... rticle.pdf
Hope this adds a little more information about the sometimes mysterious history of Queen City and Queen Cutlery.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby ScoutKnives » Wed May 24, 2017 2:15 pm

Those are some awesome Queen knives David !
Always looking for Mint pre war scout knives

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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby ratlesnake75 » Wed May 24, 2017 3:12 pm

Hey GUYS, What a beautiful Collection of Cigar knives David. Thank you for the clarification on dating also which I believe is Dead on the money. Though I didnt know that the Block letter tang stamps were used right after the purchase of Schatt,,,this is Great info for us Knife guys and We all thank you Sir for your info sharing.

I also give thanks to "Scoutknives" for allowing me to buy this Queen Cigar,,I Now LOVE IT MORE than I did because of its Roots to Schatt!!!
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby bdev » Wed May 24, 2017 8:19 pm

nifbuf wrote:Regarding the Queen City tang stamps, Fred Fisher of Ohio and Joe Dial of Alabama (both the real knowledgeable Queen collectors) and I discussed this at some length a few years back and based on a number of factors here is what we think is a good estimate: The earlier years at Queen City, 1922 – 1932 they did mostly contract work for jewelry firms in New York and New Jersey. Take a look at this article:
http://www.queencutlery.com/uploads/ESE ... ticle_.pdf
They did do some of their own Queen City knives but it appears that most was contract.
After they acquired the Schatt & Morgan plant and all equipment they closed the Spring St. cutlery and moved everything to the Schatt plant. You can tell this by studying the Queen City knives that were made from the left over Schatt material and dies and noticing that these were most always stamped with the “QUEEN CITY” block lettering. So we think that from about 1933 to the early 1940s that stamp was their primary tang stamp.
Starting in the early 1940s and up until the end of WWII they used the scrip style stamp. That was their stamping during the war on their military production with the only exception being the stamping on the machete. See this article for a little more on that: http://www.queencutlery.com/uploads/Que ... rticle.pdf
Hope this adds a little more information about the sometimes mysterious history of Queen City and Queen Cutlery.


Great information David. This really helps with dating some of my QC knives. Thanks very much and thanks for the info on my Queen #10 Ben Rocklin stamped knife.
Now the question is why the two sized script stamps? Large vs. small.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby mountainad82 » Fri Jun 02, 2017 7:04 pm

Here is my latest find. Half congress, pocket worn Winterbottom bone handles, carbon steel blades, tang stamp indicates 1946-1948 production.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby bdev » Fri Jun 02, 2017 10:21 pm

mountainad82 wrote:Here is my latest find. Half congress, pocket worn Winterbottom bone handles, carbon steel blades, tang stamp indicates 1946-1948 production.


Nice knife. I have the same knife and carry it daily. It's a #31 (it looks to be 4" in size).
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby mountainad82 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:40 pm

Picked up this advertising tang stamped Queen knife at a local flea market. Looks almost unused. Cash Hardware was established in 1929 and is still in business.
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Re: Old Queen Cutlery Co. Knives

Postby bdev » Wed Jun 14, 2017 12:38 am

mountainad82 wrote:Picked up this advertising tang stamped Queen knife at a local flea market. Looks almost unused. Cash Hardware was established in 1929 and is still in business.


Wow. That knife is in great shape for its age. Must have been tucked in a drawer for years. Nice find.
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