My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by tongueriver » Sat Oct 26, 2019 5:06 pm

PvtRossi wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 2:19 pm
What do y'all think about this bad boy? I haven't bought it yet.
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Very heavy wear. I don't know your goal or your budget.

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by PvtRossi » Sun Oct 27, 2019 3:13 pm

Mumbleypeg wrote:
Sat Oct 26, 2019 3:34 pm
That looks like a nice one. Missing its bail though if that means anything to you.

Ken
Noticed that unfortunately. Finding a bail to replace it would be an easy job?

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by Mumbleypeg » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:55 pm

Probably easier to find one with bail intact. Some folks have here might make one for you but not sure what it would cost.

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by conslade » Sat Nov 02, 2019 2:09 am

The 1st Special Service Force (also called The Devil's Brigade, The Black Devils, The Black Devils' Brigade, and Freddie's Freighters),[1][2] was an elite American-Canadian commando unit in World War II, under command of the United States Fifth Army. The unit was organized in 1942 and trained at Fort William Henry Harrison near Helena, Montana in the United States. The Force served in the Aleutian Islands, and fought in Italy, and southern France before being disbanded in December 1944.
The above was cut and paste from Wikipedia. This group had a very cool utility knife made for them by Ulster. It was a five bladed knife, with the fifth being a Phillips screwdriver. The bail was flattened and was stamped U.S. (the only military marking). Of course, this one is rare and expensive. I have owned two of 'em and, like a dummy, sold both. Good luck!
This was also the first ever U. S. Special Forces unit.
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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by Treejakal » Mon Dec 02, 2019 10:24 pm

Just got to see this post. Here is my Dad's knife. He carried it every day and used it plenty. I remember him having it in the 50's and 60's. I don't know how long he owned it before then, but it could have easily been in the 1940's. The camera focused on the bolster not the tang, but I think it is Cattargus Cutlery Little Valley. I am interested if any has info.
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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by knifeaholic » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:54 am

Treejakal wrote:
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Just got to see this post. Here is my Dad's knife. He carried it every day and used it plenty. I remember him having it in the 50's and 60's. I don't know how long he owned it before then, but it could have easily been in the 1940's. The camera focused on the bolster not the tang, but I think it is Cattargus Cutlery Little Valley. I am interested if any has info.

Great knife with a great story!!

Yes it is a Cattaraugus Whittl Kraft knife. It was made in both BSA and non-BSA versions. In fact IIRC they made some for LL Bean.

The blades are all designed for whittling. The blade that appears to be a punch is sort of a chisel blade. The bottle opener has a semi-sharpened edge at the screwdriver for rough shaping.

Catt sold the knives individually and also as part of a whittling kit that included a booklet, wood blocks, and a cloth bag.

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by Treejakal » Tue Dec 03, 2019 1:47 pm

Thanks for the great info Steve, any idea on its age?

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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by bestgear » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:33 pm

The BSA versions of the Cattaraugus whittling knives were made between 1932 and 1943 (all were pre-war). There is one story where the design of the knife was based on the results of asking boys at a National Jamboree for the features they desired in a pocket knife. There is also a story that the knife was designed when the BSA began the whittling merit badge in 1927. I have no facts to backup either story but both could be possible. They also made a 4-blade version without a bail and 3-blade versions that were the same length closed as the 4-blade versions but without the screwdriver/cap lifter blade. And given the provenance of yours, the value is priceless. ::handshake:: Hope this helps along with what others have added. Tom
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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by Treejakal » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:54 pm

Found an pic of one without the bail in good condition
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Re: My search for a pre-WWII civilian/boy scout knife

Post by Mumbleypeg » Tue Dec 03, 2019 3:57 pm

One of my favorite patterns. Great old knife and a wonderful story to go with it. It’s always fun to hear about family heirlooms.

Thanks for sharing the pictures and the story. ::tu::

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