For Case knives ... what does "long pull" mean ??

[Mumbleypeg]

Ken, I forgot to mention how nice your cokebottle folding hunter is. I don't recall seeing that stamp before.

Thanks Jerry, it's a real beauty and wonderful old piece. I got it and a couple of other equally nice knives with the North American Cutlery Wichita Kansas stamp from Mark McClurg (knife-nut on AAPK) a while back. Goins says they were in business 1921-1927. Doesn't say anything else about them but I will say they are exceptional quality knives. I'll have to get around to posting more about them.

Ken

Ken,I believe your knife is older than Goins guess.He says c1921-27.Your knife appears to have steel and bolsters and the long matchstrike pull indicates Phoenix Knife Co is the manufacturer.Phoenix burnt down in 1916 and went out of business.Goins didn`t have much to go on and in most cases they did a heck of a job putting the info together.But in this case I believe he was off by a few years,Nice knife and a rare mark.

I am remiss in not posting this sooner. Need to give a hat tip and thank you to Roger (peanut740) so I’m reviving this old thread wherein he said he thought my North American Cutlery jack was made by Phoenix Cutlery. North American is a stamp used by the Case Brothers after they left Cattaraugus (1886-87) and before they started Case Brothers Cutlery. Evidence that the knife stamped North American was made by Phoenix is this near identical twin stamped Phoenix Cutlery Co. which I acquired a few months ago. The two knives are identical even including the chipped areas at the pile side center pins.

Roger knows knives! Thank you.

Ken

[peanut740]

Thanks Jerry, it's a real beauty and wonderful old piece. I got it and a couple of other equally nice knives with the North American Cutlery Wichita Kansas stamp from Mark McClurg (knife-nut on AAPK) a while back. Goins says they were in business 1921-1927. Doesn't say anything else about them but I will say they are exceptional quality knives. I'll have to get around to posting more about them.

Ken

Ken,I believe your knife is older than Goins guess.He says c1921-27.Your knife appears to have steel and bolsters and the long matchstrike pull indicates Phoenix Knife Co is the manufacturer.Phoenix burnt down in 1916 and went out of business.Goins didn`t have much to go on and in most cases they did a heck of a job putting the info together.But in this case I believe he was off by a few years,Nice knife and a rare mark.

I am remiss in not posting this sooner. Need to give a hat tip and thank you to Roger (peanut740) so I’m reviving this old thread wherein he said he thought my North American Cutlery jack was made by Phoenix Cutlery. North American is a stamp used by the Case Brothers after they left Cattaraugus (1886-87) and before they started Case Brothers Cutlery. Evidence that the knife stamped North American was made by Phoenix is this near identical twin stamped Phoenix Cutlery Co. which I acquired a few months ago. The two knives are identical even including the chipped areas at the pile side center pins.

Roger knows knives! Thank you.

Ken

Thank you Ken.

[peanut740]

Here is Phoenix made John Chatillon that I have.Phoenix is a maker that you can't define them by their bone.They used at least 4 different jigging on the bone they used.

[knife-nut]

That North American coke bottle brought back some good memories. Georgous old knife.