Old and Obscure Brands

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Yes it is similar to an Automatic knife Co knife but does not work on a spring. Here is a picture of mine.

I love the Schmactenberg Brothers knife ::ds::
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Here is one I cant find any info on.

GLPco.
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Here's a couple I have pics of. The Hendrichs whittler is 4 1/4 inches, red stag and pinched bolsters that looks in natural light to be brass and artificial light like nickle silver. Maybe its just my eyes. Goins says 1922-26 but spells it with a k. The other one is a Corliss, 3 1/4 inch wharncliffe. circa 1900-10. I wish I could take better pics. Slim.
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Great knives Slim, I like them both - a lot. ::tu::
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gino wrote:Here is one I cant find any info on.

GLPco.

Gino,
Goins' lists the name with nothing else on it.
Apparently he had seen the brand but had no info on it.
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slimpickins wrote:Here's a couple I have pics of. The Hendrichs whittler is 4 1/4 inches, red stag and pinched bolsters that looks in natural light to be brass and artificial light like nickle silver. Maybe its just my eyes. Goins says 1922-26 but spells it with a k. The other one is a Corliss, 3 1/4 inch wharncliffe. circa 1900-10. I wish I could take better pics. Slim.
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My 14th Edition of the Official Price Guide to Collector Knives lists St. Lawrence Cutlery Co. of St. Louis MO as doing business from 1886 to 1916, and references "Schmachtenberg". I believe St. Lawrence was a distributor who sourced their knives from Schmachtenberg Bros. of New York, the American agent for the Gebruder Schmachtenberg cutlery manufacturer of Solingen, Germany.

Gebruder Schmachtenberg made pocketknives, scissors, straight razors, tableware and other edged items for distribution under the Clim, Climax, Anchor and Sword logos. They also made knives on contract for private labels, like my St. Lawrence. The company continues in existence to the current day, selling shear blades, guideways and precision machine parts out of Koln (Cologne) Germany.

My St. Lawrence is a typical German sleeveboard pen knife from the era, with pearl handles and stainless steel blades. It measures 2 5/16 inches long.
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::tu:: Trail nice one ! always enjoy your write up
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Thanks, Paul. All the threads on this Knife Lore forum make me want to find out more about knife history and heritage. Every day is a learning experience for me, since I only got started in this hobby a few years ago. I think as a group we are getting a lot of documentation amassed in a central location, where future knife collectors will be able to find things, and important information will not be lost. That seems like a real service that Bryan and AAPK are doing, above and beyond making a fun place for all of us to hang out and talk knives.
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trail,
very nice knife and very nice post. Thanks.
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Thanks guys for the nice comments. It's great to be in the company of people who have the same affliction I have. I love knives!!!! Big ones. little ones, old ones and new. I even look at the kitchen cutlery in stores. My wife has asked me why I always seem to have one hand in my pocket. If I told her I had my hand wrapped around an old stag whittler or bone congress she wouldn't understand.But I know you guys do.
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Here's another one like trails I found in an antique store in Newport R.I. We both think they are German made using English-sounding names. A common practice before the 1890 tariff laws. Goins list one such firm, Thiel & Quack 1865-1890. The second one is somewhat old and obscure,I think. Oh heck ! i just wanted to show it. W. Spencer & co. ivory sleeveboard, 1914-53.
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Two fine old knives. They both are "old and obscure" as far as I am concerned. That's the first W. Spencer I have ever seen, and you were able to give us dates!
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Nice knives Slim.
Is that real tortoise shell on that first one?
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slimpickins Sezs:
My wife has asked me why I always seem to have one hand in my pocket. If I told her I had my hand wrapped around an old stag whittler or bone congress she wouldn't understand.
She does.......They just donot admit it.

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Rosenbaum by Iros Keen
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Sword and Shield, Solingen
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::tu:: Nice Knives Wullie ! but even better pictures are you using photo shop ? you guys are killing me with these great pictures
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Great knives, Willie, especially that Rosenbaum/Iros/Keen. I seem to remember that Rosenbaum & Mogal was associated with Iros/Keen, probably as a distributor. They also had their own house brand, "Romo". Here is a news article on Rosenbaum & Mogal from The American Cutler, No. 130, April 1920:

Rosenbaum & Mogal

"Romo" Steps to New York.

Rosenbaum & Mogal have moved from 374 Hudson avenue, Brooklyn, to 91 Bowery, New York, where they have opened one of the most attractive cutlery stores in the city, confined to wholesale cutlery sales exclusively. It is a large store, 25 feet wide by 70 feet deep, with two modern front windows.

The stock carried is large and complete, embracing everything in the cutlery line, and enabling the firm to make immediate deliveries to the jobbing and retail trade. In addition to its regular cutlery lines there is also carried a complete stock of tool knives.

The firm of Rosenbaum & Mogal was launched about four years ago by I. Rosenbaum and M. Mogal, and in the period that has intervened their success has been phenomenal. The members of the firm credit a great deal of their growth to the loyal co-operation of the selling force, which embraces Marry Cahill, Charles Cahill, J. Mogal, Melville Levy, Charles Whttney and Mr. Rosenzwig.

In view of its very large stocks, which are replenished rapidly ,affording immedite deliveries to the retail trade, the firm anticipates a very active demand.
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paulsvintage wrote:::tu:: Nice Knives Wullie ! but even better pictures are you using photo shop ? you guys are killing me with these great pictures
Thanks Paul.

I have several photo editing programs. The one I use the most is an older version of ACDSEE.

There is a free editor available called paint.net. It's fast and easy to use to crop, resize and adjust colors and saturation etc and add text to your picture. IF you decide to download and install paint.net, be aware that they are "bundling" a tool/search bar in with it. You can uncheck the install part and then you won't have that crapware on your machine.

Hey trail,

That's interesting about Rosenbaum. I forgot to mention that the keeper/belt clip on the bail has a '27 patent date on it if I recall correctly.

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Orvet, as far as I can tell it is. The mark side shows the most translucentcy and I recall a thread on this forum that being a premium material, the mark side will show more color with the pile side flatter. At least that the way I remember it.I only paid a few bucks for it and was pretty sure at the time it was genuine tortoise. Slim.
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slimpickins wrote:Orvet, as far as I can tell it is. The mark side shows the most translucentcy and I recall a thread on this forum that being a premium material, the mark side will show more color with the pile side flatter. At least that the way I remember it.I only paid a few bucks for it and was pretty sure at the time it was genuine tortoise. Slim.
I think you are right. If it were celluloid I think there would be at the very least some shrinkage, but I see no evidence of it in your picture. There doesn't appear to be any beetle damage to the handle either, (this is a GOOD thing!) :lol:

Great Find!! ::tu::
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Wullie, those are some fine old knives and I agree with Paul. The photos are outstanding! I think I'll quit making excuses for taking poor photos and actually learn how to use my camera, that is as soon as I learn how to use this computer. Slim. ::shrug::
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one year, 1889 the Fayban knife company was located at the corners of Reade & Church streets NYC .
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I have this the same knife you have but in different color, I'll post the pictures here soon.
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looking forward to seeing them, Munoz; as you can tell - we like pictures.

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