Shootin fer TENzies
- MrBlister
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Shootin fer TENzies
Het . . .. anybody know how tell a 9 or 10 dot on a cheetah..
This n i bought to flip has 8 dots a showin..
looks to be un-sharpened or carried..
Plse advise a less experienced "dottie"
thanks and het in advance
This n i bought to flip has 8 dots a showin..
looks to be un-sharpened or carried..
Plse advise a less experienced "dottie"
thanks and het in advance
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- MrBlister
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
so if it were 9 or 10 dot,,, the dot
pattern would be WIDER with relation to the USA above??
pattern would be WIDER with relation to the USA above??
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
pratically impossible to tell a CASE 11-1/2L 9 dot from a 8 dot based on the way they removed the dots on these 2 years. Swing guard would have to be removed to see for sure.
My 10 dot bone examples and most I have seen have all 10 dots clearly visible.
Knife cleaned up nice. Saw it on ebay, not a bad buy for 44 bucks.
My 10 dot bone examples and most I have seen have all 10 dots clearly visible.
Knife cleaned up nice. Saw it on ebay, not a bad buy for 44 bucks.
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
guess i'll jus toss it in ma 8 dot pile,, and be done with it.. thanks all
het in advance
het in advance
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
It's an 8 dot Dave.
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
Just curious Wishful how you determined that? Mind sharing? Would love to hear how you are certain of this fact if nine dots are not visible and possibly one obsucred by the guard.wishful wrote:It's an 8 dot Dave.
Seeing how except for the CASE Sodbuster, the dots were removed from the left, right, right, etc, in that order, hence with the swing guard position, and the fact between a 10 dot and a 9 or 8 dot, only one dot removed would be able to be seen without removing the guard.
Please share how you are certain this is not a 9 dot and definitely an 8 dot. Would love to know if I am missing something. On a simliar note, for many years collectors thought here were 8 dot true Cheetahs. All those that had the guard removed proved to be 9 dot Cheetahs. I believe they did in fact make 71' and 72' Bone 11-1/2L knives, but telling the difference is almost impossible. Would appreciate if you would share your secret to telling an 8 dot from a 9 dot with that degree of certainty
Jerry
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
None of the true 10 dot stag Cheetahs I've seen had a pattern # on the back of the tang.
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
OK thanks Gary . . .
Due to your 10 dot expertise,,,,
I'll consider YOUR WORD on the subject
to be the LAST WORD on the subject.
Others would do well to do same.
H E T ! !! ! !! ! !! ! ! !
Due to your 10 dot expertise,,,,
I'll consider YOUR WORD on the subject
to be the LAST WORD on the subject.
Others would do well to do same.
H E T ! !! ! !! ! !! ! ! !
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
Based on your response, it appears you have the answer. Additionally, it is obvious that my opinion does not matter to you, so no need to read any further.MrBlister wrote:OK thanks Gary . . .
Due to your 10 dot expertise,,,,
I'll consider YOUR WORD on the subject
to be the LAST WORD on the subject.
Others would do well to do same.
H E T ! !! ! !! ! !! ! ! !
For other that may be interested on the OP knife as it pertains to determining how many dots it has, in my opinion...
I am certainly no expert. But I have spoken with experts on this subject and as I said in my previous reply, they stated except for the CASE Sodbuster, the dots were removed from the left, right, right, etc, in that order.
Since there was no reply on how this knife was definitively determined to be an 8 dot and the guard could be obscuring a 9th dot, I can only assume that this was determined based on the dot location relative to the letters in "USA" directly above the dots. Again, no expert but in my opinion this is pure estimation and certainly not a exact science for determining how many dots in leiu of actually being able to see and count how many dots there actually are.
Based on the examples I have studied, all stamps do not have the dots located in the same position relative to the word "USA". Stamps did vary, even in the same dotted year.
Another misconception, in my opinion is that CASE always "centered" under the USA as they dropped a dot for the next year. I have observed enough examples to know this not to be true. Look at the last 2 pics of this reply to show what I am referring to. These are not "one off" examples either. Notice very clearly that the dots are not centered under the "USA".
Based on the examples I have studied, all stamps do not have the dots located in the same position relative to the word "USA". Some did, some did not. Stamps did vary, even in the same dotted year. They made all different size stamps and possibly even stamps for a particular pattern.
Look at the first 2 pics of 7 dots and possible 8 or 9 dot example. The location of the dots relative to the USA are identical on all 5 knives. Using the letter "U" as a reference on the pics shows what I am referring to. The pics clearly show my reference to dot removal, removed from the left, right, right, as the first 7 dots on all 5 knives are in the same location relative to the word "USA". Due to variances in the stamps, the OP knife dot location is different than the knives in the first 2 pics. But the does not definitively make the knife either an 8 or a 9 dot knife. Inconclusive in my opinion due to the swing guard.
Jerry
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
The specific gravity of mercury is 13.6. The rate of discharge from the pipe is...?
A venturi meter is inserted in a pipe whose diameter is 12in. The diameter of the meter as its throat is 6in., and the factor C1 for the meter is 0.980. When a differential mercury gage is connected at the inlet and the throat of the meter, the vertical distance between the surfaces of the mercury in the two legs of the gage is 1.1 5ft. The specific gravity of mercury is 13.6. The rate of discharge from the pipe is...
A. 5.67cfs.
B. 6.29cfs.
C. 6.05cfs.
D. 6.80cfs.
H E T !!!!!!!!!
A venturi meter is inserted in a pipe whose diameter is 12in. The diameter of the meter as its throat is 6in., and the factor C1 for the meter is 0.980. When a differential mercury gage is connected at the inlet and the throat of the meter, the vertical distance between the surfaces of the mercury in the two legs of the gage is 1.1 5ft. The specific gravity of mercury is 13.6. The rate of discharge from the pipe is...
A. 5.67cfs.
B. 6.29cfs.
C. 6.05cfs.
D. 6.80cfs.
H E T !!!!!!!!!
Re: Shootin fer TENzies
The discharge can be expressed as
ρ = m / V = 1 / vg (1)
where
ρ = density (kg/m3, slugs/ft3)
m = mass (kg, slugs)
V = volume (m3, ft3)
vg = specific volume (m3/kg, ft3/slug)
The SI units for density are kg/m3. The imperial (U.S.) units are lb/ft3 (slugs/ft3). While people often use pounds per cubic foot as a measure of density in the U.S., pounds are really a measure of force, not mass. Slugs are the correct measure of mass. You can multiply slugs by 32.2 for a rough value in pounds.
SLUGS I tell ya.
ρ = m / V = 1 / vg (1)
where
ρ = density (kg/m3, slugs/ft3)
m = mass (kg, slugs)
V = volume (m3, ft3)
vg = specific volume (m3/kg, ft3/slug)
The SI units for density are kg/m3. The imperial (U.S.) units are lb/ft3 (slugs/ft3). While people often use pounds per cubic foot as a measure of density in the U.S., pounds are really a measure of force, not mass. Slugs are the correct measure of mass. You can multiply slugs by 32.2 for a rough value in pounds.
SLUGS I tell ya.
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
Mark . . . thanks so much fer keeping yer response consise and in fact, exactly 100 words......
Well below 463 . .. . .
Server memory space IS expensive anymore..
thanks again ma friend....
and HET!!!!!!!!!
Dave
Well below 463 . .. . .
Server memory space IS expensive anymore..
thanks again ma friend....
and HET!!!!!!!!!
Dave
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
You are concerned about memory space yet you post replies that are irrelevant to the OP on 2 reply posts. Hmm, that doesn't make sense at all.MrBlister wrote:Mark . . . thanks so much fer keeping yer response consise and in fact, exactly 100 words......
Well below 463 . .. . .
Server memory space IS expensive anymore..
thanks again ma friend....
and HET!!!!!!!!!
Dave
Smoke and mirrors and failed humor (in my opinion) only takes one so far, as is obvious by not responding to my detailed information/pictures on the knife you posted, whether I am right or wrong on my research and opinion. I personally consider when a member takes the time to respond to my post a good thing whether I agree with them or not, obviously you don't appreciate the time it takes to research knives that are posted and respond in an adult and contributory fashion. Once in a while a joke thrown out, I am OK with and enjoy it, but consistent non contribution to the forum is a disgrace to the the forum only when others are the subject of attempted ridicule for their replies/attempts to assist. Think a member considering joining wants to be ridiculed for a post or a response? Likely they will not become a member. If people choose to lurk/learn and not post idiotic responses, that is a good thing, in my opinion. I do hope they join, post and positively contribute though. I am no saint, that is for sure, but view my past posts and it is evident I spend the time to try to help others, whether I may be right or wrong on the subject.
I am sure this response means nothing to you and another off topic response certainly will not surprise me, nor will I lose sleep over it. Done spending my time to provide opinion based on study and research, right or wrong on a topic, to a member that obviously is not appreciative of that and was explained in too many words.
Jerry
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
I just want to say thanks to Jerry/zp4ja for all his input. 

Larry W
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Re: Shootin fer TENzies
Thanks Larry! Back at you!
Regards, Jerry
Regards, Jerry
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