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HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby Joe Dirt » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:58 am

HAMMER BRAND stamp photos with dates.
Previously published with hand drawn images.
Pictures include an undocumented Imperial HAMMER BRAND stamp.

NOTE the differences in the 3 finger and 4 finger grip on the hammer handle.
I personally use a 3 finger grip.
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Imperial stamp dates.jpg
Hand drawn images published in Knife World magazine
NYKC Hammer Brand trade mark 1878-1932.jpg
Trade mark used by New York Knife Co. Walden, NY from 1878 - 1932
'36-'37 Imperial Hammer Brand.jpg
First Imperial Knife Company stamp used in 1936 -1937
'38-'44 Imperial Hammer Brand stamp.jpg
Second Imperial Knife Company stamp used from 1938 through 1941 (pre-war stamp)
'45-'55 Imperial Hammer Brand stamp.jpg
Third Imperial Knife Company stamp used from 1945 through 1955 (post war stamp)
Imperial Hammer Brand Fixed blade Shell handle stamp has enlongated  shape hammer-possable post '55.jpg
Undocumented Imperial Knife Company stamp. Possibly post 1955
Taylor LLC  Import Hammer Brand.jpg
Taylor LLC import from China (2010)
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Modern (2005) New York Knife Co. Hammer Brand stamp, New York over USA over Knife Co is found on 2nd blade tang.jpg
This is a USA stamp found on trappers and stockmans made in New York. NEW YORK KNIFE CO USA is found on one of the secondary blades.
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby Miller Bro's » Mon Jan 24, 2011 3:35 pm

Joe,

Thanks for posting the pictures ::tu::

It is very useful to see the actual tang stamp ::nod::
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby orvet » Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:32 am

Excellent study in Hammer Brand tang stamps Joe! ::tu::

Thank you!
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby Cope » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:06 pm

Joe does this chart cover ALL Imperial and Hammer brand knives? I'm going to make a copy to save.

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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 8:42 pm

Thanks Joe, very useful since I'm getting a few Hammer stamps now. This one appears to be post 1955 as well.
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby Joe Dirt » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:22 am

Cope, I focused only on the HAMMER BRAND stamps. The NYKC stamp is taken from only one
sample. I will need to compare a few more examples to see if there was any differences over the years.
(Any/All Help is Encouraged and Welcomed!)

I know Imperial used other stamps in addition to the ones published.
Some as generic as "U.S.A.", while others left the factory with no stamp at all.

I have just discovered the stamp with the 4 finger grip caped by the thumb w/U S A.
The documented '45 - '55 stamp has a three finger grip caped with the fore finger and thumb w/USA.
This stamp needs further research before an actual date can be associated with it.

Singin46, your knife does appear (though I can't clearly see 4 fingers) to have the "newly discovered" stamp!
Please confirm this, as it is only the second one I have ever seen, if so.

If anyone has a 4 finger/USA stamped Hammer Brand, PLEASE post it!

I will start another topic on why I believe it is post '55.

Thanks folks,

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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:38 am

Yes Joe, it is certainly a 4 finger stamp, can't wait to hear why you are of the opinion it is post 55'. I can't seem to get a decent shot of the stamp to post but thru the loop I just looked again and saw all 4 fingers gripping the handle. Very clear thru the loop!
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:48 am

Is this any better Joe? After 10 or 15 tries, this is what I came up with.
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:03 am

gonna try this once more Joe. Sorry bout the BIG pic but it frustrated me bad! I count 4 fingers.
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby orvet » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:28 am

PhotoShop! :mrgreen:
Nice hi-res pics though!
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby orvet » Sun Jan 30, 2011 6:41 am

I am no expert on Imperial tang stamps but here is the info I have in my files.
The first 3 charts are from an old Knife World article. I believe LT posted them several years ago.
The 4th chart was posted here or in another knife forum.

I am not sure of the accuracy of either any of them, but it dies give you an idea of some of the markings used.

Note that #8 is noted as being the same as the NYK Hammer Brand stamp.
How is that for throwing a monkey wrench into the gears? ::shrug::


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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Sun Jan 30, 2011 7:24 am

Yes, I have all these on my desktop Dale and thx for the help on the photoshop. ::tu::
Is this one really rare? ::shrug:: With both stamps?
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby orvet » Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:09 am

LOL @ Perry. ::tu:: Jus' teasin' :wink:

I don't think that is rare.
It seems to me that I have seen the two stamps on a number of Imperial shell handles.
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby singin46 » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:05 am

That's what I thought too. Just creative embellishment for selling purposes. Not about to bid on it. I don't want these things to start going for $30 bucks all the sudden! ::td:: I knew you were kiddin Dale, we're buddies! :mrgreen:
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Re: HAMMER BRAND stamps

Postby Joe Dirt » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:38 pm

Here's another one for the stamp collection.

Again, ANY and ALL help is welcome and encouraged with these stamps.
Your observations and feedback are a tremendous help ::tu::

This stamp has the post war ('45 -'55) arm & hammer image. However the "USA" is stamped sideways.
The stamp on the pen blade also differs from the usual patten stamps.

Is it possible that this is a "prototype" stamp used after USA was added to the stamp following WWII?

Maybe a first production run before a decision was made to use the vertical USA stamping?

What do you think?

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USA is stamped sideways compared to the documented '45-'55 stamp with the vertical USA.
Pen blade OTHER PATS PEND stamp 001.JPG
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