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Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:10 pm
by ea42
Picked up a few new ones recently from some well known Hudson Valley cutleries, both old and new. First one's a Wallkill River Works barehead jack, in unused condition, and in great shape save for some spotting. Has the classic NYK bone, which you don't see too often on the Wallkills.
Next is a Schrade Walden 804, complete with the etch! This one's also in unused condition, but also came with some spots and a pretty good deal of rust on the exterior of the backspring on master blade side. Proper storage wasn't the previous owner's strong point, although it seems it may have been forgotten in some dingy storeroom from the looks of it.
Next up is a brand new Canal Street half moonpie trapper with stag handles and 14-4 CrMo blade. VERY smooth action, and slippery in the pocket as well. I love the smooth finish on this one with nary a sharp corner. ( You'll have to pardon me for not wiping the oil off the tangs

)
Eric
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:25 pm
by Sauconian
Been doing pretty good yourself there, Pal.
I'll have something to drool on the next time you and rusty1 are going through the shoe boxes full of Schrade commemoratives.
Fran
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:32 pm
by Rusty1
Nice additions Eric, I do like the Walkill River Works knife jigged bone, the 804 is a sweet knife to add to the Schrade collection. The Stag CSC knife will be a winner for them if the Schrade 194OT is anything to go by.
Russell
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:39 pm
by carvin don
Excellent looking knives. I really like that Schrade Walden whittler, handle looks nice and thick! Beautiful bone handles

Nice finds!
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:31 am
by ea42
Thanks guys! I can't just sit around watching you getting all the good stuff
Don, yes it's a stout knife, actually a split spring whittler, the pattern was a very popular one. It started out as a "Carpenters Whittler" with Schrade Cut Co, and carried right through Schrade Walden until I believe 1973, at which point it had delrin handles. I believe the peachseed bone handles ended in the late fifties, very early sixties.
Eric
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:51 am
by upnorth
Eric you scored some real killers there! The Walkill is a special piece, and the Whittler is a great example of the breed.
Very nice!! Are they from a show?
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 4:11 am
by ea42
Charlie,
Thanks! Actually they're off Ebay, turns out the seller lives about ten minutes from me. No, he didn't have any other knives ( It was the first thing I asked him!

). The Canal Street is from AG Russell.
Eric
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:12 pm
by Paul M
Very Very nice Eric! I would love to find a Schrade like that. Those vintage knives did not stray too far from their birthplace. Here's a pic of my Wallkill to show you what yours would look like if it had been used.
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:19 am
by Another Knife Collector
That Schrade sure is in great shape, what a great find!

Very nice ones!
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:31 am
by ea42
Thanks AKC! And thanks for the comparison Paul

, That ones in great shape as well, very cool seeing two of the same model knife on one thread! Did you all know that there was actually a Hudson Valley Cut. Co. stomping around here in the 1890's? Here's an example of one of their knives:
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:17 pm
by galvanic1882
Boy Eric I love the knives you bought. I was looking at the Wallkill when it was on ebay it's a great looking knife. Here are my Hudson Valley knives. The CO. O. Knife Co. Walden NY will get some comments I am sure!!! The 4 blade is a Warwick
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:21 pm
by galvanic1882
Here are 2 more, The pearl is a Kipsi-Kut. The knife is really well made. The celluloid is a closed back Wallkill River
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 2:58 pm
by muskrat man
here's my wallkill splitback whittler. Finest whittler I have ever held I think.
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:15 pm
by upnorth
CO.O. ?? Co-operative knife Company?? WOW!
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:51 am
by ea42

Geez galvanic, those are incredible!! The Co-Op is incredible! I figured I'd never see one of those in my lifetime, if LT sees it I think he'll have a cow!
MM that is a NICE whittler, incredible condition! you guys are really bringing out the big guns now!
Eric
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:29 pm
by galvanic1882
Not sure if the Co. O. Knife company is Cooperative Knife Co. There are those that think it might be County Orange Knife Co??? I thought it would get more comments than it has. Waiting for LT. I also thought the Warwick Knife Co knife would get more comments. They are rare and hard to find in any condition.
Glad you like them Eric. I have some old boxes also.
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:02 pm
by muskrat man
Hey mike, nice knives. Not all that oogle in envy respond

Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:12 pm
by jonet143
hey mike, great knives. can you tell some of the history surrounding them?
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:00 pm
by upnorth
The Warwick looks like it's Schrade-made, Mike, but I see in Goins they were a factory. Then of course, the longer you look at these things, the more you realize there was a lot of interbreeding.
It's in nice shape, like all your knives!
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:12 pm
by orvet
muskrat man wrote:Hey mike, nice knives. Not all that oogle in envy respond

MM is quite right.
I could not respond because I drooled so much that I shorted out my keyboard.
I should have known, if mike is posting pics I need get out my drool cup.
Beautiful knives Mike!
Dale
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:08 pm
by galvanic1882
Thanks for the kind words about my knives and fro all the people that have posted theirs. They are all great!! I have an old picture of the cutlers outside the Warwick knife co building also. Now all I need is a box and or billhead!!! Like they will be easy to find.
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 7:20 pm
by thawk
Nice knives in this thread. All of them.
Eric, the 804 with etch is one I keep looking for. Waynorth has one of those too. You must have picked that one off before I saw it.

Anyway, I love the 804, here are three I have, the 8041 Schrade Heritage, an 1985 revival knive, in smooth brown bone, a Schrade Walden delrin version, and an old bone stag, with no etch. The old one hasn't been used much, has a little patina going on. The sabre ground blades were really cool on this carpenter or mechanics knife.

Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 10:33 pm
by ea42
Mike, I believe I need some confirmation on this as I'm not 100% correct, but I believe the Co.O Knife Company (Walden Cooperative Knife Co.) was the infant Walden Knife Co , if I'm not mistaken it was formed by the disgruntled employees from NYK who were invovled in the famous baseball dispute.I believe they only used that stamp for about three years, and needless to say it is HIGH on my list of wish knives, especially with an etch!!
There was another, super rare Cooperative knife made by what would become Ulster Knife, but I believe that one is stamped as Ellenville, and not Walden. I believe it also bears the Letters Co.Op.
The Warwick stamped knives are also rare mainly because they were so involved with doing contract knives that they rarely had a chance to stamp their own. I don't recall off the top of my head who their main customers were, but it WAS a major one like Shapleigh.
Eric
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:07 pm
by galvanic1882
Thanks Eric, I just looked in Goins' and he has Walden CO. O Knife Co. to be between 1870-1874. I think you are right about this one not being from the Ellenville Company. I did not know that it was that old a knife. It was an ebay find for very cheap money.
Warwick I think made a large amount of knives for Belnap Hardware according to Goins'
I might have posted the Wardlow Salesman's knife on the site before but it goes good with this group I think.
Re: Some New Hudson Valley Additions
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 5:34 pm
by upnorth
Another beauty! Keep them coming please

. First ChipAway etch I've ever seen.